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**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Jun 14 02:27:04 2002
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--> adiamas (~adiamas@216.194.26.146) has joined #rockbox
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--- Topic for #rockbox is Version 1.0 released! http://bjorn.haxx.se/rockbox/
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--- Topic for #rockbox set by ChanServ at Tue Jun 11 03:31:20
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<Bagder> hey adiamas
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<adiamas> hey ya...
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<adiamas> now that i have my UPS set up...
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<adiamas> im finally going to get around to get a cross compiler going :)
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<Bagder> go go go ;-)
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--- You are now known as adi|home
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<Bagder> following Linus' instruction, it is really simple
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<adi|home> *nmods*
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<adi|home> only prob is im running gcc 2.95 right now :)
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<Bagder> that shouldn't matter
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<Bagder> if you have the source for that one already, you can probably make a cross compiler out of that version
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<adi|home> that reminds me...
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<adi|home> the simulator was coring on me yesterday
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<adi|home> when i shuffled the playlist
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<adi|home> i tracked it.. but it made no sense
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<Bagder> oh
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<Bagder> can you repeat it now?
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<adi|home> dunno.. was going to test in a few
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<Bagder> ok
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<Bagder> it cored yesterday when we messed around with an empty dir
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<adi|home> how do i force fstab to be reread?
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<adi|home> on linux?
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<adi|home> do you know?
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<Bagder> reread?
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<Bagder> mount -a?
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<Bagder> no, that only mounts all
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<adi|home> my prob is this..
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<adi|home> i have my archos mount with the same permissions that my floppy does
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<adi|home> at least thats what the fstab tells me
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<adi|home> i can mount the floppy as a user, but not the archos
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<dwihno> you have the nouser flag?
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<adi|home> nope
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<adi|home> /dev/sda1 /mnt/archos vfat noauto,owner 0 0
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<Bagder> ok, so you changed that but the user still can do it?
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<adi|home> no...
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<adi|home> as a user i can mount my floppy, but as a user i cannot mount my archos
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<adi|home> and my floppy entry is the same
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<adi|home> /dev/fd0 /mnt/floppy auto noauto,owner 0 0
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<Bagder> I just use umask=0 and am happy with that ;-)
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<adi|home> heheh
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<Bagder> /dev/sda1 /mnt/archos vfat noauto,umask=0 0 0
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<adi|home> ill try it :)
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<Bagder> that still requires root to mount
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<Bagder> but any user can write to it
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<adi|home> see.. don't want that :)
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<adi|home> i want user to be able to mount it :)
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<Bagder> beats me really
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<adi|home> hehe no worries
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<adi|home> yup.. still happens .. the coring..
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<adi|home> can you check on your version and ensure im not nuts?
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<Bagder> sure
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<dwihno> you're full of the nuts? :)
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<adi|home> okay... load the uizim
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<adi|home> the sim
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<adi|home> then load a playlist
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<adi|home> then go to shuffle the list and shuffle
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<adi|home> and it should core after it finishes
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<Bagder> ok... fixing my darned X-redirect...
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* adi|home screams
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<adi|home> my rockbox on the archos reboots.. even with the dc plugged in
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<adi|home> wtf
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<Bagder> ugh
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<adi|home> ugh what?
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<adi|home> the logo looks sharp though :)
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<Bagder> ugh as in "oh that is not nice"
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<Bagder> hehe
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<adi|home> hehe and my icons look sweet :)
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<Bagder> they do
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<adi|home> hehehe screen saver on the rockbox...
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<adi|home> sooooooo cool :)
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<Bagder> :-)
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<adi|home> god i love this
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<dwihno> are there icons now?
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* adi|home nods
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<Bagder> it doesn't crash for me
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<adi|home> there always were.. we just wernet using them
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<adi|home> hmmm wtf...
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<adi|home> i did a make clean
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<adi|home> and a cvs update
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<dwihno> adi|home: Show me a screenshot! :D
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<adi|home> of the icons?
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<adi|home> sure.. give me a min
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<Bagder> adi|home: can you show me a stack trace?
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<dwihno> yay! :D
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<adi|home> sure.. give me a min
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<adi|home> doing an update and recompile just in case
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<adi|home> dwihno.. you have dcc on?
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<dwihno> Yuppers
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--- Offering sshot.jpg to dwihno
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<adi|home> okay.. bagder.. how do i get you a stack trace?
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<adi|home> strace?
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<adi|home> right?
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<Bagder> run 'gdb rockboxui core'
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<Bagder> then 'where'
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<Bagder> (or 'bt' if you prefer a shortcut ;-)
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<adi|home> no stack
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<dwihno> adi|home: How cute! :D
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<adi|home> heh wait.. im stupid
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<dwihno> the cursor should be replaced
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<Bagder> dwihno: yes indeed
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<adi|home> okay.. then what bagder?
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<adi|home> i know where is choking on mine.. i just don't know why.
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<dwihno> I'll draw one rightaway ;D
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<Bagder> mail it to me, daniel@haxx.se
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<Bagder> please do
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<dwihno> How big is the font btw?
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<adi|home> want me to just dcc it to you?
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<Bagder> adi|home: I'm tunneled, bounced, crawled and sneaked so much dcc is impossible ;-)
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<adi|home> hehhe okay
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<dwihno> 5x7?
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<Bagder> yes
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<adi|home> sent
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<adi|home> something else i was thinking...
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<adi|home> we can 'shuffle' and empty list
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<Bagder> got it
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<adi|home> we should be checking that
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<adi|home> namely.. if you havne't loaded a list, tell the user that
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<Bagder> yes
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<Bagder> I told Zagor so too
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<dwihno> .....
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<dwihno> ##...
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<dwihno> ###..
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<dwihno> ####.
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<dwihno> ###..
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<dwihno> ##...
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<dwihno> .....
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<dwihno> There, a new cursor ;)
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<Bagder> adi|home: there's no stack trace there!
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<Bagder> dwihno: now convert it to bytes, LSB in the top, each column one byte
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<Bagder> and use the 5 bytes width
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<Bagder> 5 pixels
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<dwihno> LSB?
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<Bagder> least significant bit
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<Bagder> bit 0
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<dwihno> Line 1: 0, line 2: 3 ?
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<Bagder> no
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<Bagder> column-wise
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<dwihno> mkay
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<Bagder> column 0; 0x7e
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<Bagder> adi|home: this dump just shows lots of loaded symbols and the actual crash point, no stack trace
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<Bagder> try running it with gdb from the start:
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<Bagder> 'gdb rockboxui'
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<Bagder> 'run'
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<Bagder> [booom]
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<Bagder> 'bt'
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<adi|home> k
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<adi|home> what is bt?
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<Bagder> back trace
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<adi|home> k.. all it returns is:
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<adi|home> #0 0x0804e10f in menu_run (m=Cannot access memory at address 0x3d099dcc
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<adi|home> ) at ../../apps/menu.c:169
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<adi|home> Cannot access memory at address 0x3d099dc4
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<adi|home> and i could have told you that
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<Bagder> hm
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<adi|home> i found out that much last night.. exactly where it is dieing.. but now why
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<adi|home> its the menu_redraw
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<adi|home> in main_menu.c
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<adi|home> when you return from the function ptr
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<dwihno> Bagder: 0x3e, 0x3e, 0x1c, 8, 0
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<Bagder> dwihno: you should use the full 5x7
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<Bagder> we have 6x8
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<dwihno> we have?
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<Bagder> yes
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<dwihno> mkay
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<dwihno> me stupid
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<dwihno> me back in a flash soon ;)
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<Bagder> no ;-)
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<dwihno> me need coffee
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<Bagder> menu_redraw?
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<adi|home> yup.. one sec ill get you a line
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* Bagder runs to fill up more coffee
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<adi|home> sorry.. menu_draw
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<adi|home> menu.c:164
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<adi|home> lcd_clear_display();
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<adi|home>
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<adi|home> menus[m].items[menus[m].cursor].function();
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<adi|home>
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<adi|home> /* Return to previous display state */
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<adi|home> menu_draw(m);
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<adi|home> break;
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<adi|home> the function call goes fine
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<adi|home> "m" is valid before the call
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--> Zagor (~bjst@as9-5-6.k.s.bonet.se) has joined #rockbox
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<adi|home> all looks fine in he call
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<adi|home> we return and _barf_
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<Zagor> hi all
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<adi|home> hey zagor
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<adi|home> found a nice core that Bagder cant seem to repeat
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<Zagor> ooh, shiny! :)
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* adi|home nods
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<dwihno> 0x7e, 0x7e, 0x7e, 0x3c, 0x3c, 0x18
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<dwihno> 0x7e, 0x42, 0x42, 0x24, 0x24, 0x18 (for a "transparent" version) ;)
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<adi|home> zagor..
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<dwihno> what's the opposite of LSB term-wise?
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<adi|home> know how the archos works better when you have dc plugged in?
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<Zagor> dwihno: msb
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<dwihno> mkay
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* dwihno suck when it comes to buzzwording :)
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<adi|home> nah. your just 'Livt'
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<dwihno> Add my cursor code :)
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<Hadaka> don't mix those with big-endian and little-endian like some people do :)
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<Bagder> dwihno: in progress
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<adi|home> at least your not a 'Liar'
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<dwihno> Hadaka: what's the diff between big and little-endian? /me has always been on the intel platform...
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<Hadaka> well intel is the stupid one :)
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<adi|home> the size of the feather
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<dwihno> adi|home: haw haw haw
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<dwihno> Hadaka: so what is the difference?
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<adi|home> smiles broadley
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<dwihno> word order?
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<dwihno> Tell me
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<Hadaka> byte order in words
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<Hadaka> little endian is
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<Hadaka> A B C D
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<Hadaka> big endian is B A D C
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<Hadaka> if I'm not tripping, it's too early in the morning
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<Hadaka> (that's bytes)
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<Zagor> you are tripping :)
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<dwihno> C D A B ?
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<adi|home> heheh
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<adi|home> but he's right isn't he?
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* adi|home remebers it that way
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<Zagor> no, big-endian is straight big-to-small. little-endian is twisted
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* adi|home taps Hadaka on the shoulder and askes if he is a he, just in case
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<Hadaka> err, big-endian is small-to-big
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<Hadaka> yup, sorry guys, I'm male
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<adi|home> so big should be: D C B A
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<Hadaka> or
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<Hadaka> if you are guys }:>
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<adi|home> and little is: C D A B
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<adi|home> ?
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<Hadaka> adi|home: nope
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<Hadaka> I hope that is
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<Zagor> the lowest byte of a big-endian word is the highest value
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<Zagor> 0xCAFEF00D is 0xCA 0xFE 0xF0 0x0D
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<dwihno> Bagder: Is the cursor cute?
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<Bagder> not quite there yet
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<dwihno> oh..
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<adi|home> little: 0x0D 0xF0 0xFE 0xCA?
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<Hadaka> hmh, lowest? do you mean 0xCA with that or 0x0D?
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<Zagor> i meant lowest address
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<Zagor> 0xCA
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<Hadaka> hm, yeah
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<Hadaka> oh yeah
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* adi|home is confused again
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<dwihno> Little endian is gay, in that case
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* adi|home needs to go back and read
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<adi|home> given CAFEFOOD
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<adi|home> what is little?
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<Hadaka> big-endian assumption being that the highest address should be highest value - which is wrong
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<Hadaka> s/big/my big/;
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<Zagor> Hadaka: ah
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<Hadaka> jesus one should never run into these things
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<dwihno> Hmm
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<dwihno> For someone who knows nothing on this endian stuff, who should I listen to so I won't learn the wrong stuff? :)
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<Bagder> haha
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<Zagor> hehe
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<adi|home> lotsa pot smokers in belguim must be happy :)
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<adi|home> hehe Zagor
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<adi|home> he's been right so far in everything else :)
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<dwihno> heh
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<Zagor> :)
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<dwihno> Zagor: Give me a skolboksexample, s'il vous plait :)
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<Hadaka> http://www.webopedia.com/TERM/b/big_endian.html
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<Zagor> little endian cafefood is just the opposite: 0x0D 0xF0 0xFE 0xCA
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<Hadaka> haha
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<Hadaka> UNIX -> NUXI - 'U' 'N' 'I' 'X' is big endian, 'N' 'U' 'X' 'I' is little endian :)
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<dwihno> So when will one be affected by endianness? And don't tell me some apache joke now adi ;)
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<Bagder> dwihno: reading binary data as 'shorts' or 'longs' etc
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<Zagor> Hadaka: yes but only when talking about two 16-bit words. if it was 32-bit, it'd be XINU
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<Bagder> dwihno: like when reading a BMP file from disk ;-)
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<dwihno> Hehe...
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<dwihno> I bet 'my' BMP reader will freak out with little endian
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<dwihno> big endian on the archos?
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<dwihno> oops
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<dwihno> well, you know what I mean ;)
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<Zagor> yes, except some hardware (like the ata controller) is little endian
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<dwihno> eww
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<dwihno> endian soup
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<Zagor> and the mp3 chip is little-endian bit-wise, so we have to flip every single friggin byte before we send it...
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<dwihno> They should have chosen a big-endian mp3 decoding chip
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<Zagor> yeah, well there's a list of "they should've"s :)
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<adi|home> starting with 'they should've made the price cheaper'
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<dwihno> They should have made the screen 400x200 pixels :)
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<dwihno> What is the most power consuming part (apart from the hard disk stuff) ?
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<Zagor> i don't know. cpu, i guess
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<adi|home> okay.. just to double check...
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<adi|home> ABCD in big indian
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<adi|home> is
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<adi|home> CDAB in little?
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<Zagor> if the data is two 16-bit words, yes
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<Zagor> if it's one 32-bit word, it will be DCBA
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<adi|home> k...
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<adi|home> and if you have 2 32 bit words of ABCD ABCD?
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<adi|home> or ABCD EFGH
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<Zagor> DCBA HGFE
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<adi|home> russian belguim game has gotten really good :)
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* dwihno is amazed by the stupidity of some people
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<dwihno> Encoding stuff @ 192kbps even when the quality is really bad
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<Bagder> hehe, I found something...
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<Bagder> #define MAX_MENUS 4
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<Bagder> in apps/menu.c
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<adi|home> hehehe okay?
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<adi|home> thats why we core?
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<Bagder> yeah
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<Zagor> you made a new menu?
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<adi|home> damn.. how did you find that?
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<adi|home> hey.. they added shuffle playlist
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<Zagor> as a new menu? not just an entry?
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<adi|home> no.. its an entry..
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<adi|home> so that shouldn't effect it
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<Bagder> this is an entry count
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<Zagor> MAX_MENUS is the max menu depth, not max entries
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<Bagder> then it is used wrongly
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<Zagor> ok
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<Bagder> check main_menu.c
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<Bagder> and the menu_init() call
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<Zagor> checking
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<Bagder> no
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<Bagder> sorry
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<Bagder> my bad
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<Bagder> no problem there
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<Zagor> ok
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<adi|home> zagor..
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<Zagor> yup?
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<adi|home> can you explain why 32 bit words become DCBA HGFE
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<adi|home> seems more sensible that it would be EFGH ABCD
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<adi|home> or GHEF CDAB
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<Zagor> your data is 64 bits
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* adi|home nods
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<dwihno> aaaaaaaaarggghhh!
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<dwihno> you make me go nuts! :)
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<Zagor> so it's split up in two 32-bit words
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<adi|home> right
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<Zagor> the words don't change places or anything
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<Zagor> the byte swapping is only done within the word
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<adi|home> okay...
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<adi|home> why doen'st the same idea follo for 16bit works?
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<adi|home> words?
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<adi|home> you said: ABCD becomes CDAB
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<adi|home> if the swap is within words.. wouldnt: BADC make more sense?
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<Bagder> "word" is a crappy term to use
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<Zagor> i didn't say that, did I? it's wrong
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<Zagor> 32-bit ABCD becomes DCBA
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<Zagor> 16-bit ABCD becomes BADC
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<dwihno> Bagder: the daily build is already built?
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<Bagder> yes
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<Bagder> 6 am MET
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<dwihno> darn
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<dwihno> Then I'll wait until tomorrow ;)
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<dwihno> We need a "select cursor" menu ;D
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<Bagder> I'll just fix the cursor for the tree browser too and soon we'll see
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<adi|home> can i assum then that on 64 bit words we would be: ABCDEFGH => HGFE DCBA?
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* Bagder tries to figure out the best way to deal with the margins in the tree browser
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<Zagor> adi|home: yes
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* adi|home is finally getting this
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<adi|home> thank you for the help...
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<Zagor> Bagder: what is your problem with margins?
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<Zagor> no problem
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<Zagor> btw, adi, whatever happened to your logging effort?
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* adi|home whistles innocently
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* Bagder chuckles
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<adi|home> my isp decided to get alot more unstable
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<adi|home> we need a bot in here to just sit and suck everything up
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<Zagor> i'd still say you're the guy with the most complete logs. you're always here
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* adi|home blushes
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<adi|home> i can put up what i haver right now
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<Zagor> yeah, that is an option
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<Zagor> please do
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<dwihno> Hey, what happened to privacy?!
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<dwihno> ECHELON SEES YOU! :D
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<adi|home> that doesn't exist on the net ;)
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<Bagder> /whois privacy
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<Bagder> oops ;-)
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<dwihno> ECHELON BUSH TALIBAN USAMA BIN LADEN {{{{{ hugs to you }}}}}
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<adi|home> my current rockbox log is 1.1 megs
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<dwihno> There, my footprint in the internet world ;D
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<Zagor> adi|home: will you split it up into days?
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<adi|home> all i ahve to say is that PRESIDENT BUSH is the BOMB and bin laden needs to DIE
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<adi|home> for you zag?
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<adi|home> sure
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<adi|home> but only cause its you
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<Zagor> hehe
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* adi|home winks suggestivly
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<Zagor> nudge nudge
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<adi|home> nudge nudge... wink wink.. kno what i mean.. know what i mean...
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<adi|home> have you ever.. have ya hu? have you...
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<adi|home> ya know...
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<Bagder> there we go again ;-)
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<dwihno> find / -name bin | awk '{print $1 " laden"}'
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* adi|home yells out 'Help! Help! I'm being repressed!
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<adi|home> Zagor.. should i remove room enters and leaving?
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* Bagder thinks so
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<Zagor> yes
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<dwihno> and everything dwihno-related. I want my privacy ;D
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<Bagder> dwihno: your privacy can be found here => #dwinos_secrets
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<Bagder> set it invite-only ;-)
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<dwihno> :D
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<dwihno> Mr. Funny pants
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<dwihno> http://www.klitta.nu/dw/keops_bigapple.png
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<dwihno> Speaking of funny pants
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<Bagder> someone could make some work on a vertical slider
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<Bagder> if we should have one
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<dwihno> hmm
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<dwihno> It could share space with the cursor
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<dwihno> I like the display like it is now - as many filenames as possible! :)
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* Bagder commits new cursor
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<dwihno> YAY! :D
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<dwihno> Which did you chose?
|
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<Bagder> 0x7e, 0x7e, 0x7e, 0x3c, 0x3c, 0x18
|
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<Bagder> but it looks a bit ugly ;-)
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<Bagder> too thick
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<dwihno> ugly cursor for ugly people
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<dwihno> shift it left one step and make the new first column smaller than
|
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<dwihno> then
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<Bagder> I thought about that too
|
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<Bagder> perhaps even two steps
|
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<dwihno> do so
|
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<Bagder> 0x7f, 0x3e, 0x1c, 0x08, 0x00, 0x00 wins
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<Bagder> Zagor: does the scroll code care about the lcd margins on the recorder?
|
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<Zagor> yes
|
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<dwihno> Bagder: yay!
|
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<dwihno> does the scroll look fishy on the players?
|
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<Zagor> no that I know
|
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<Zagor> not
|
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<Bagder> the new cursor only uses 4 pixels width
|
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<adi|home> zagor.. your gonna love me in a min :)
|
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<dwihno> I'll start working on a variable width font this weekend
|
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* Zagor feels his heart warming
|
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<Zagor> dwihno: cool
|
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<Bagder> dwihno: it would be really cool
|
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<dwihno> How are you storing the fonts right now?
|
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<Zagor> Bagder: have you kept my code that handles proportional fonts?
|
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<dwihno> like the cursor?
|
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<Bagder> Zagor: I think I have it somewhere, yes
|
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<dwihno> I was thinking about an extra byte for w&h
|
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<Bagder> dwihno: I adjusted it
|
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<Bagder> I added a bug when scrolling in the tree browser though :-/
|
|||
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<dwihno> So what are the measurements we should keep?
|
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<dwihno> Bagder: It's called a surprise feature, not bug :)
|
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<Zagor> as small as possible :)
|
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<dwihno> <reboot> SURPRISE! :D
|
|||
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<dwihno> How about umlauts and special chars?
|
|||
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<Zagor> yes please
|
|||
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<Zagor> a full iso 8859-1 is ideal
|
|||
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<Bagder> heck, this bugs more than just in the scroll
|
|||
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<dwihno> I'll work against the charmap in the recorder...
|
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<Bagder> more coffee needed
|
|||
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* dwihno is not looking forward to the 1 o'clock meeting
|
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<dwihno> meetings are time thieves
|
|||
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<Zagor> dwihno: either that, or look here: http://czyborra.com/charsets/iso8859-1.gif
|
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<adi|home> okay.. irc files updated
|
|||
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<adi|home> but you ge to fix the html ;)
|
|||
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<adi|home> im going to bed
|
|||
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<Zagor> ok, bye
|
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<Bagder> night adi
|
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<Bagder> now you can try the new cursor
|
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<Bagder> hm
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<Bagder> brb
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<Bagder> http://storebror.haxx.se/archos/
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<Bagder> brand new
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<dwihno> I'll test it rightaway
|
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<adi|home> ummm.. don't mean to be an ass ;)
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<adi|home> but the cursor you just put in..
|
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<adi|home> is exactly like the Selector that was there and not being used :)
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<Bagder> haha
|
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<dwihno> adi|home: you're an ass :)
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* Bagder is blind
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<adi|home> don't blame me...
|
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<adi|home> _you_ didnt read the code ;)(
|
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<dwihno> Heh
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<dwihno> So what? :)
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<dwihno> I'm no coder
|
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<dwihno> I just come with ideas
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<adi|home> hehehe
|
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<adi|home> im just bustig your balls..
|
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<Bagder> but... but... eh, but my cursor is one more pixel to the left! ;-)
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<dwihno> :D
|
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<adi|home> besides.. yours looks sharper for some reason
|
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<adi|home> hehehe
|
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<adi|home> keep yours
|
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<adi|home> delete Selector
|
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<dwihno> YOUR cursor?! :/
|
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* dwihno is offended
|
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<adi|home> your.. meaning you ddi the new one didn you ?
|
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<Bagder> haha
|
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* adi|home runs to bed
|
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<dwihno> erhm
|
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<Bagder> dwihno: compare the values, they aren't really the ones you gave me ;-)
|
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<dwihno> they are not!
|
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<dwihno> oh my god!
|
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<dwihno> You evil dude
|
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<dwihno> the lcd still flickers
|
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<Bagder> I pulled up xmag and zoomed in
|
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<Bagder> and this setup was the nicest I could do
|
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<adi|home> no it don't.. you just blink funny
|
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<dwihno> and the [browse] line should be removed since another line of files would fit ;D
|
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<Zagor> actually I think that's a good idea. we want to use the screen fully
|
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<dwihno> What is the dimensions of the screen?
|
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<adi|home> well.. remember
|
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<adi|home> your going to want battery indicators
|
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<adi|home> and we havne't thought about time or anything
|
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<Zagor> adi|home: agreed, but personally I prefer such information on a separate info screen
|
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<dwihno> Me too
|
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<Zagor> or during playback or something. not in the browser
|
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<dwihno> browser is a browser
|
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<dwihno> during playback, there is a lot of space for displaying such information
|
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<adi|home> nod
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<Bagder> brb
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<Bagder> my ssh X-redirect is *so* weird
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<Bagder> it works the second login I do
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<Bagder> not the first
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<dwihno> <-- is pissed off
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<dwihno> <-- wants to order his F!("#)<29>/)! laptop!
|
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<dwihno> Will there be L/R volume bars in the future?
|
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<Zagor> you mean during playback?
|
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<dwihno> yeah
|
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<Zagor> no thanks...
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<dwihno> I mean, it's not that pretty
|
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<dwihno> and it looks rather silly when only updated a couple of times per secnod
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<Zagor> yes
|
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<Zagor> i don't like it either
|
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<dwihno> A wider battery might be nice too
|
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<Zagor> i say we skip the silly icon and use hard numbers instead
|
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<dwihno> %?
|
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<Zagor> yeah
|
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<dwihno> Yeah, and a "time left" feature :D
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<dwihno> (or, at least, some kind of estimation)
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<Zagor> that's, ummm, difficult
|
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<Zagor> even just % is very difficult
|
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<dwihno> it is?
|
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<dwihno> Does not the hardware supply the values?
|
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<dwihno> Or do you have to pull off a sw trick to read it?
|
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<Zagor> the hardware supplies battery voltage, that's all
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<dwihno> hm
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<dwihno> voltage, as in 1.2 volts?
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<Zagor> yes
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<dwihno> oh
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<dwihno> Mail the archos guys and ask them :)
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<Zagor> heh, yeah right :)
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<dwihno> "Hello mr. archos guy. How do you perform the battery check? We think battery status would be neat in Rockbox"
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<Bagder> would be cool to get an external meter on that thing and keep showing the voltage all the way until the unit dies
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<dwihno> Get going! :D
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<[TOT]Maverick> hi
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<[TOT]Maverick> Just tried out the new daily build for the recorder
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<[TOT]Maverick> Dunno if you already know but the Euro-Symbol doesnt work it just displays a ?.
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<Zagor> yeah, we lack a number of symbols in the font
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<[TOT]Maverick> Hehe
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<[TOT]Maverick> I used it for DJ DEEP the both EEs were Euros
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<dwihno> Oh how neat
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<[TOT]Maverick> :)
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<[TOT]Maverick> Tetris is nice
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<Zagor> hehe, yeah. a little diversion while you... eh... don't listen to music (yet) :)
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<[TOT]Maverick> But I hate these buttons they arent like the ones of a gameboy or something
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<[TOT]Maverick> who needs music on a mp3 player :)
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<[TOT]Maverick> First i also thought about reporting the scrolling bug but you fixed it first :)
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<Zagor> hehe
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<[TOT]Maverick> Hehe developers are faster in fixing bugs than user in reporting em
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<[TOT]Maverick> BTW Music in tetris would be nice
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<Zagor> the music will keep playing during tetris. just fire up a big playlist and you'll be set
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<Zagor> did you try loading a playlist, btw? i think you will be pleasantly surprised...
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<[TOT]Maverick> No i never use playlist *beatme*
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<Zagor> i know, the archos playlists aren't very useful. we're changing all that
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<[TOT]Maverick> hehe
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<[TOT]Maverick> You dont understand
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<[TOT]Maverick> I NEVER use em :)
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<[TOT]Maverick> Not in winamp, not on the box..
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<Zagor> how are you using it? playing a record at a time, or having all songs in one dir?
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<[TOT]Maverick> my songs are too long fo puttin them into a list
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<Zagor> too long?
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<[TOT]Maverick> i usually listen to mixes about 300mins long a track
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<Zagor> ah, ok
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<Zagor> it's coming in a later version
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<[TOT]Maverick> Shouldnt be too hard to realize, nor?
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<[TOT]Maverick> hmmm
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<[TOT]Maverick> Perhaps you could use a hidden directory for saving data
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<[TOT]Maverick> OR use the MBR!!!
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<Zagor> exactly
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<Zagor> we'll use a sector before the FAT
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<[TOT]Maverick> yeah so its hidden in windows
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<[TOT]Maverick> nice
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<Zagor> and so we don't have to look for it in a directory, we always know where to save
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<[TOT]Maverick> erm the UI gets more graphically as development moves on?
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<Zagor> yes
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<[TOT]Maverick> nice
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<[TOT]Maverick> is a graphical indocator like the one in winamp possible when playing a song?
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<[TOT]Maverick> The current one of the archos is just for left-right...
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<Zagor> it's not easy, since we don't unpack the data ourselves
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<[TOT]Maverick> ah
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<[TOT]Maverick> that does the dsp
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<Zagor> yes
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<[TOT]Maverick> ok so no chance there
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<Zagor> I wouldn't say no chance, but it's not straight-forward
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<[TOT]Maverick> I noticed something when text is scrolling at a faster speed...
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<[TOT]Maverick> Its like the effect on a TFT screen
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<Zagor> yeah, trail
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<Zagor> yes. lcd screens are inherently slow
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<[TOT]Maverick> gameboy didnt have that "feature" :)
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<[TOT]Maverick> But its nice to set your own speed
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<datazone> why dont you look on the webpage
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<Zagor> yes, probably. but it's a bit in the future
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<[TOT]Maverick> @data: I look at the page every day just to mention.
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<datazone> every day? man, thats bad
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* Bagder made the build go yellow... fixing...
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<Zagor> booo! :)
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<[TOT]Maverick> I like the site
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<[TOT]Maverick> Every day something new :)
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<datazone> or you have "issues"
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<Zagor> ironi made the design, I make everything else :)
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<Zagor> yeah I try to keep it interesting
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<[TOT]Maverick> It IS
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<[TOT]Maverick> But there is one thing i miss since ver 1.0
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<Zagor> what is that?
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<[TOT]Maverick> The Status of the single parts
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<Bagder> we need a new table
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<Bagder> with new parts
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<datazone> i remember when i first saw the rockbox logo.. heh, i though it was a guy humping the "R"
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<Zagor> well we don't really have that kind of progress anymore. most new features affect many parts
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<[TOT]Maverick> hmmm
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<Bagder> we could still list things we want, what we work on and what isn't worked on
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<Zagor> Bagder: true
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<[TOT]Maverick> yeah thats what i mean
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<[TOT]Maverick> the user doesnt interest what is REALLY done wherever
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<[TOT]Maverick> BTW<54> will it be possible in the future to make mods or plugins?
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<Zagor> no, we'll always make whole apps
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<[TOT]Maverick> ok
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<Zagor> we do plan a boot selector, though
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<Bagder> but we'll do different apps
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<[TOT]Maverick> So you have to make a nice (and nice looking hehe) app :)
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<Bagder> well, with the proper help and feedback, we'll end up there
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<[TOT]Maverick> I am always there if you are in need of ideas
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* Bagder enables picky warnings in the simulator builds now
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<[TOT]Maverick> But as you already know i cant "really" help you because of my non existing c knowledge
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<Bagder> we're talking YELLOW ;-)
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<[TOT]Maverick> huh?
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<Zagor> ideas are help too
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<Bagder> on the build status page
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<[TOT]Maverick> ah hehe
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--- dwihno|metting is now known as dwihno|meeting
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<Bagder> phew, only 2 warnings turned up ;-)
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<Bagder> daily build page extra feature soon coming
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<Bagder> hey elinenbe
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<elinenbe> hey
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<Bagder> Zagor: boo!
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<Bagder> Zagor: here?
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<Bagder> ok, then I'll go for a cup a coffee ;-)
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<Zagor> back
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<Bagder> check the compile stat table
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<Bagder> suggestion on the link?
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<Zagor> a - instead of space
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<Zagor> and link to a subdir that I can symlink to your dir
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<Bagder> hm
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<Bagder> ok
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<Bagder> I prefer to use %20 and keep the same
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<Bagder> space
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<Bagder> it is the same time stamp
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<Zagor> ok
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<Bagder> name of your symlink?
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<Zagor> cvslog ?
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<Zagor> cvsmod maybe?
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<Bagder> there
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<Bagder> it should link to my output dir
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<Zagor> where are your files?
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<Bagder> /home/dast/rockbox-auto/output
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<Zagor> ok
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<Zagor> works
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<Bagder> neato
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<Bagder> the dump shows the last 25 minutes
|
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<Bagder> it makes 5 minute overlap
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<Zagor> hmm, is that what we want?
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<Bagder> well, entirely without overlap tends to be with gap instead
|
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<Bagder> this is just time-based
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<Zagor> yes, but can't you look at the time and minimise the gap? it will get confusing when one change is in two status logs
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<Bagder> I can minimize it, sure
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<Bagder> but since I select based on time, I either risk overlap or gap, making it *perfect* is not really realistic
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<Bagder> 20 minutes and 30 seconds now
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<Bagder> oh
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<Bagder> .txt I guess
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--- dwihno|meeting is now known as dwhino
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--- dwhino is now known as dwihno
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<Zagor> yeah that's probably a good idea :)
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<Bagder> btw, I believe the x11 simulator runs threads wrong
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<Zagor> yeah?
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<Bagder> yeah, they run simultaneously
|
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<Zagor> ooh, bad
|
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<Bagder> my mutex trick isn't used
|
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<Bagder> I wanted to add the tick_counter in yield, and then I noticed that yield is never used!
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<Zagor> hehe
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<dwihno> hell<6C> hell<6C>
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<dwihno> I say hell<6C>
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<dwihno> You say goodbye
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<dwihno> I say hell<6C>
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* dwihno is a beatle today
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<Zagor> beetle
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<dwihno> Nope
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<dwihno> beatle
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* Zagor squishes dwihno :)
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<Bagder> This is Windows for you...'found out that significant part of time is spent ... In this function "select" is used with a timeout value of 1 micro second'
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<Bagder> 1 us
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<Bagder> turns out to be a "significant part" of time
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<dwihno> Zagor: You are so nasty!
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<dwihno> Nasty boy!
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<Bagder> that must be one helluva implementation ;-)
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<Zagor> Bagder: aren't they saying that since it times out so quickly it gets called very frequently?
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<Bagder> no
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<Bagder> this is a libcurl thing
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<Bagder> I use it only once
|
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<Zagor> ok
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<Bagder> but it "significantly" slows windows operations down
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<Zagor> haha
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<Bagder> I can't but to laugh
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<dwihno> curl? sounds gay ;)
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<Bagder> doesn't most things to you? ;-)
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<Bagder> curl groks ;-)
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<dwihno> you are sitting WAY TOO MUCH in front of the computer screen :)
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<Bagder> no, I'm not doing it enough!
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* Zagor is starting go get mutt to behave
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<Zagor> to
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<Bagder> can mutt use different "roles" when replying etc?
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<Zagor> haven't gotten that far yet :)
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<Zagor> i think so, though. there's a lot of hooks everywhere you can use
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<dwihno> Zagor: Hey, are you becoming a dwihno?! :)
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<dwihno> mutt are belongs to us!
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<dwihno> Mutt is evil software! :)
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<dwihno> custom keybindings is a must rhough
|
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<Zagor> yeah they are. i'm just checking out if it's better than pine.
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<dwihno> Well
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<dwihno> It takes a while to get accustomed to it
|
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<dwihno> (as everything else)
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<Zagor> yes
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<dwihno> ROROROROROOOCKBOOOOX!
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<dwihno> Fa l ala
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* dwihno has gotten 0xc0ffee into the veins
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<dwihno> Coffee is for the mind, what viagra is for the dick
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<Bagder> heh, the scrolling looks worse when I "fix" the threading ;-)
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<Bagder> in the simulator that is
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<dwihno> Any ideas why it flickers on the recorder?
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<Bagder> you mean when scrolling?
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<dwihno> nay, when going across pages
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<Bagder> hi jedix
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<jedix> hey
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<jedix> what are you guys working on today?
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* Bagder fixes threading in the simulator, cursor on recorder, cvs logs on the site
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<Bagder> nothing else ;-)
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<jedix> hehe
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<jedix> cool
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<jedix> I should probably update my cvs
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<Bagder> Zagor: 'current_tick' is now in the simulator
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* Bagder broke the win32 simulator build just now
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<dwihno> Yay! :D
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<dwihno> you rule Bagder
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* dwihno just got a project finished
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<dwihno> yay!
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<Bagder> was that the 5 of 5 then?
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<dwihno> yay = yet another youser
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<dwihno> not really :)
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<dwihno> I got 2 new :)
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<Bagder> heh
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<dwihno> One step forward, two steps back, ya'know :)
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<dwihno> So now I'm gonna spend some time configuring a computer
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<dwihno> (for purchase, that is)
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<dwihno> Pentium 4 - M Supreme Performance
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<dwihno> Yum
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<dwihno> The volume bar should be a numerical value instead of a bar in Rockbox
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<dwihno> (just a thought)
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<Bagder> I often don't care for either way
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<Bagder> I use up/down without any visual feedback
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<dwihno> me too
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<dwihno> but it's just a thought
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<dwihno> the most useless feature: the L/R volume bars
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<Bagder> indeed
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<Bagder> all builds are now *green*
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<dwihno> yay! :D
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<dwihno> even with the extra warning flags?
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<Bagder> yeps
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<Bagder> now, coffee break
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<dwihno> cools0r
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<edx> hi
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<dwihno> Howdy edx! :D
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<dwihno> http://www.euro.dell.com/countries/se/sve/dhs/products/model_inspn_inspn_8200.htm, whaddya think?
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<dwihno> Has Linus started working on the decoder chip on the recorder?
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<dwihno> CVS archoses should show build date next to 'CVS' (the logo)
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<edx> @ dell inspiron.. looks cool :)
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<dwihno> What's the difference between SXGA+, UXGA, and enhanced UXGA?
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<edx> ugh.. don't ask me :?
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* dwihno wants to run rockbox on his recorder
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<dwihno> but just tetris won't do it atm ;)
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<elinenbe> dwihno: toshiba 5105-s607 (better deal)
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<dwihno> elinenbe: I'm no rich ass dude!
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<dwihno> is there any firewire / usb2 converter? :)
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<dwihno> do you know what the difference between UXGA, SXGA and stuff is?
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<dwihno> hey elinenbe, wake up :)
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<dwihno> elinenbe: don't ya' know?
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<Bagder> hey edx
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<Bagder> edx: I believe I broke the win32 simulator build
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<elinenbe> I am here
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<dwihno> hell<6C> :)
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<dwihno> Do you know the diff between SXGA and UXGA?
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<dwihno> and does 32 vs 64 meg gfx memory make a difference?
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<elinenbe> SXGA+ (1400 x 1050)
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<dwihno> Is it only the resolution that is the diff?
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<dwihno> I mean, they still maintain the same aspect ratio
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<elinenbe> 1280 x 1024 SXGA Resolution
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<elinenbe> 1280 x 1024 SXGA Resolution
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<elinenbe> 1280 x 1024 SXGA Resolution
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<elinenbe> 1280 x 1024 SXGA Resolution
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<elinenbe> 1280x1024 SXGA
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<elinenbe> sorry
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<elinenbe> uxga 1600x1200 (the best)
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<dwihno> Extended UXGA, what's so special about that?
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<elinenbe> no idea.
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<dwihno> I'll skip the floppy, it's outaged anywayhs
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<elinenbe> that is just uxga.
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<dwihno> what do you have?
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<elinenbe> me?
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<elinenbe> UXGA
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<dwihno> How is it for quake? ):
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<dwihno> :)
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<Bagder> I find those terms silly
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<elinenbe> 32 megs of memore -- nvidia geforce go
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<Bagder> I have 1800x1440, I don't ave no silly acronym ;-)
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<elinenbe> i dont play quake, but fifa world cup runs sooo nicely
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<dwihno> :)~
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<dwihno> FIFA is addictive!
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<dwihno> My combinations are really fancy
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<elinenbe> on my old desktop I ran 1920x1440
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<dwihno> pass, pass, SCOOOORE! :)
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<Bagder> actually, I usually have just 1600x1200
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<elinenbe> the mobile ATI actually has better benchmarks
|
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<elinenbe> but
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<dwihno> You have 32 megs in your computer?
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<elinenbe> the nvidia is soo mcuh better due to the drivers, etc.
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<elinenbe> 32 megs video ram
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<elinenbe> but more is always better
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<dwihno> Of course :)
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<Bagder> matrox
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<elinenbe> matrox is not known for games.
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<dwihno> But unless you run 3d-games at a high res, 32 meg should be sufficient, right?
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<elinenbe> yeah
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<Bagder> Matrox is a killer for 2D
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<elinenbe> it is fine here.
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<dwihno> (with high-res, I mean, REALLY HIGH-RES) :)
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<elinenbe> Matrox has great stuff for 2d
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<dwihno> yeah
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<elinenbe> yeah.
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<dwihno> matrox ownz the 2D market
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<dwihno> they have been excellent for ages
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<dwihno> still are
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<elinenbe> i can run my laptop at max 1600x1200, AND an external monitor at 2048x1536 TAKE THAT!
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<Bagder> hehe
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<Bagder> its usually not the card that limits the resolution these days
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<dwihno> I was just about to mention that
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<elinenbe> but I have no external monitor anymore -- how do you think I paid for the laptop :)
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<elinenbe> that is so true.
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<dwihno> my old TNT card boasted with 3000xsomething resolution
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<elinenbe> some of the 64 meg cards can do that too. 4400x3300
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<elinenbe> who the @$!#*& has a montiro THAT large?
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<dwihno> And then the question is, who the heck uses such a high resolution? :)
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<dwihno> Computer analphabets
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<dwihno> I know of such a person :)
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<dwihno> and he is a computer analphabet
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<elinenbe> does anyone here use cgywin?
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<elinenbe> cygwin.
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<dwihno> I used to
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<dwihno> Then I started using mingw
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<elinenbe> is that better or something?
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<dwihno> UT - 15" TFT UXGA (1600x1200)
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<Bagder> mingw uses the MS native C lib
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<dwihno> cygwin uses some kind of unix emulation layer
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<dwihno> that's the diff
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<dwihno> s/uses/is/
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<dwihno> s/uses/comes with/
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<dwihno> or whatever ;)
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<elinenbe> ahh... that doesn't effect me.
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<dwihno> $2250 is the final pricetag
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<dwihno> including delivery
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<dwihno> eww
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<elinenbe> I paid 2299 for mine
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<dwihno> That's like... 3 luxorious trips
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<elinenbe> true
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<dwihno> Whoa
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<elinenbe> WIAT
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<elinenbe> WAIT
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<elinenbe> read this:
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<elinenbe> http://computers.cnet.com/hardware/0-2645880-7-1454141.html?tag=prmo
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<dwihno> ah
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<dwihno> you got the topmost?
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<elinenbe> well, it only cost 2299, and yours costs nearly the same
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<dwihno> "I receieved my toshiba 5105-S607 as a gift from my sister last month"
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<dwihno> How sick isn't that
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<elinenbe> what!!
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<elinenbe> I had to sweep up elephant shit for 4 months for mine.
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<dwihno> I've been working for 6 months to acquire the bonus
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<elinenbe> I work for the circus
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<dwihno> Noway! :)
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<elinenbe> finally he is out of here!
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<elinenbe> just kidding
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<dwihno> You're the bearded lady? :)
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<elinenbe> yeah.. Ringling Brothers
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<dwihno> elin en beard also known ;D
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<elinenbe> no... I was the elephant caretaker
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<dwihno> At least you got a kickass laptop now! ):
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<dwihno> ):<3A>
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<dwihno> :)
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<elinenbe> I guess.
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<dwihno> delivery is 7-10 work days
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<elinenbe> if you have seen the pounds of shit I cleaned up, you would think again...
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<dwihno> yeah, I guess elephants do produce quite a lot of shit
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<elinenbe> Badger: where do you live?
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<Bagder> Stockholm, Sweden
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<dwihno> I'm being torn apart between 32 or 64 megs of graphics memory
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<elinenbe> what is the cost difference?
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<elinenbe> well, remember a laptop is really NEVER upgradable. so what you buy now, you should expect to be happy with for at least 3 or 4 years.
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<dwihno> $70
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<elinenbe> it is probably better to shell out a little more now. If you get the 32 megs and you are not happy, then what do you do?
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<dwihno> true
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<dwihno> you are a wise man
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<dwihno> (or, bearded lady, if you prefer that) ;)
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<elinenbe> new games. I read an article about how it is better to buy the best alptop that you can afford because it will last that much longs
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<elinenbe> longer
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<dwihno> Where did you gain your wisdom?
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<dwihno> I guess scoping elephant shit leaves a lot of time to do philosophical thinking
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<elinenbe> from the bearded lady.
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<dwihno> haha
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<dwihno> :)
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<dwihno> 512 megs of RAM
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<dwihno> 1,6 GHz
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<dwihno> 1600x1200 UXGA
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<dwihno> but no cd-rw fishy thing
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<Bagder> ... and Linux 2.4.18? ;-]
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<dwihno> :)
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<dwihno> I'll keep a dualboot thingy
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<dwihno> what kind of built in network cards are there on these babies?
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<dwihno> realtek? intel?
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<Bagder> you're the one buying this
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<elinenbe> i dont know.
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<dwihno> elinenbe: what's in yours?
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<elinenbe> Badger: you run linux -- right?
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<Bagder> yepso
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<Bagder> all the time
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<elinenbe> well, I run a 10 node cluster here :)
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<elinenbe> just kidding.
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<dwihno> Internal combo 56k modem / 10/100 network
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<dwihno> whoa
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<dwihno> elinenbe: what NIC is in your box?
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<elinenbe> I have no clue.
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<elinenbe> I run win xp on my laptop.
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<elinenbe> that is what came on it.
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<dwihno> ah
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<dwihno> mkay
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<dwihno> check? :)
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<elinenbe> I am not going to bother changing all this shit.
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<elinenbe> i run linksys wireless.
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<dwihno> cool :)
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<dwihno> wireless is sleek & sexy
|
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<elinenbe> I do all my programming on sun machines here anyway
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<elinenbe> I guess...
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<dwihno> Time to do a final check before proceeding to the order part
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<Bagder> I'm off for today, I'll come by tomorrow... see ya
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<dwihno> He left :(
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<dwihno> Nobody left
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<dwihno> psy is left
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<dwihno> and the bearded lady
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<elinenbe> have you compiled the firmware yet?
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<elinenbe> I have a question.
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<dwihno> Sorry, I don't :/
|
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<dwihno> haven't
|
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<dwihno> there
|
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<dwihno> the order has been placed
|
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<elinenbe> did you use the 25% OFF code from techbargains.com?
|
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<dwihno> nay
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<elinenbe> there is no cupon.. I'm just having some fun :-)
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<dwihno> I thought you were
|
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<dwihno> I just hope I will get the computer soon
|
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<dwihno> At least, the order has been placed.
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<dwihno> tjoho ironin!
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<dwihno> ironi: now I've ordered the new computer! :D
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<dwihno> yay x 10
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<ironi> lalala
|
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<ironi> hi all
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<ironi> your UI man is here
|
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<ironi> =)
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<dwihno> where?
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* dwihno looks around
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<dwihno> I can't see anything
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<dwihno> Well, I'm off for the weekend
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<elinenbe> ironi: have you done anything with the UI yet?
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<ironi> elinenbe: well no =)
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<ironi> I can suggest changes and let ppl who know more implement them hehe
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<elinenbe> oh.... I see
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<elinenbe> I can do that too :)
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<elinenbe> when I am compiling the firmware. I get an error...
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<elinenbe> drivers/button.c: In function `button_tick':
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<elinenbe> drivers/button.c:70: `NULL' undeclared (first use in this function)
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<elinenbe> can anyone help me
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<ironi> music of the day (MOTD) : cd1-12-armand_van_helden-why_cant_you_free_some_time_(-lbe.mp3
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<g003y> YO!
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<g003y> dang... everyone is sleeping or working :/
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<adi|work> whats up?
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<g003y> heya adi
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<g003y> heya elinenbe
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<elinenbe> hey there.
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<elinenbe> you are compiling under cygwin -- right?
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<g003y> yeah
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<elinenbe> can you step me through it really fast. when you install cygwin do what options did you check?
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<elinenbe> I could not get it to compile today -- it told me I was missing the header files.
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<elinenbe> string.h
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<elinenbe> stdio.h
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<elinenbe> etc...
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<g003y> oh
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<g003y> did you install gcc with cygwin?
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<elinenbe> yeah
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<elinenbe> I should not do that -- right?
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<g003y> no.
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<elinenbe> what packages should I select?
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<g003y> you need gcc to get to the cross compiled one
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<g003y> I don't think it's a package issue
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<g003y> string.h is standard lib
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<elinenbe> well, then binutils asks for a cc compiler?
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<elinenbe> yeah I know.
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<g003y> you may have to mod that make for binutils then
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<elinenbe> how did you do it?
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<g003y> I'm trying to recall the steps in my crusty brain here :D
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<g003y> I'm not near my install
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<elinenbe> I am going to do a default cygwin install...
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<g003y> yeah but I encountered the cc problem you had
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<elinenbe> oh.
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<elinenbe> I should install cygwin without gcc -- right?
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<g003y> I know I have a solution. I believe I edited the makefile and changed CC=cc to CC=gcc
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<elinenbe> oh... ok
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<g003y> no you need an initial gcc to get things done
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<elinenbe> then I should install gcc?
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<g003y> yeah
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<g003y> then you update it when you do Zagor's instructions
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<elinenbe> ok, so I am installing cygwin default, with gcc
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<g003y> don't forget make as well
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<g003y> :D
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<elinenbe> ok.
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<elinenbe> which make.
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<g003y> the make proggy
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<elinenbe> I am just doing the standard configure/make/make install
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<g003y> I'm sure it installs by default
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<elinenbe> well, I will tell you.
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<g003y> the missing string.h is probably a pathing issue you're having
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<elinenbe> well, it was there in /usr/include
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<g003y> yeah but on mine it wouldn't find it with cygwin for some reason
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<g003y> I had to put it right into the makefiles that required it
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<g003y> then compiles worked
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<elinenbe> what do you mean you had to put it right into the make file?
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<elinenbe> the path?
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<g003y> yeah
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<g003y> -I/usr/include
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<g003y> then compiles worked
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<elinenbe> oh... ok
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<elinenbe> well, that is all I think I needed to do then
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<g003y> for some reason it doesn't pick it up
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<g003y> oh ok
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<g003y> well then try that :D
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<elinenbe> everything was compiling okay, except that.
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<g003y> oh
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<g003y> then you're far enough along that it's probably that bit
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<g003y> I haven't gone back to shell setup to figure it out as it's easy enough to put that extra include in the Makefiles.
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<PsycoXul> boy it takes faaaar too long for archos' firmware to load just the first 999 tracks of my wholedisk playlist heh
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<elinenbe> I think the rockbox version takes too long
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<PsycoXul> heh
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<PsycoXul> oh yeah?
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<elinenbe> yeah!
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<elinenbe> 2 seconds is WAY too long :)
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<PsycoXul> hehe
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<PsycoXul> yeah
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<elinenbe> I am just kidding
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<PsycoXul> well the new technology
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<elinenbe> the rockbox firmware is quite nice
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<PsycoXul> based on precessional resonance
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<elinenbe> did you do the playlist code?
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<PsycoXul> and subatomic manipulations rather than interatomic motions
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<PsycoXul> will be much more capable than our current "electronic" technology is
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<elinenbe> I see...
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<PsycoXul> me code? hah...
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<g003y> psyco- does the rockbox code actually play the songs in the playlist for you?
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<PsycoXul> not last i tried
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<g003y> ok then I'm not crazy
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<g003y> I compiled last night, but no go on playing the songs
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<g003y> but it sure as heck loaded te playlist fast :D
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<PsycoXul> hehe
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<ironi> hey Bagder
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<Bagder> hey ho
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<ironi> just got up?
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<Bagder> no
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<edx> hi as well :)
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<ironi> Heh I got up, and breafast was served, total luxury.
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<ironi> hey edx
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<ironi> My gf is visiting, heh.
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<ironi> *practical*
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<Bagder> my wife took off for the rest of the day ;-)
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<ironi> hehe, sounds like you can sit in front of the computer without hearing "Will you ever get off that thing?"
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<Bagder> heheh, exactly
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<ironi> I know that feeling
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<ironi> "Can't you just let it go when I'm here"
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<Bagder> ... with references to the fine weather etc ;-)
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<ironi> hehe
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<ironi> well i hear the weather rocks in sthlm the last days
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<ironi> here it's crap the last week
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<Bagder> hey
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<Bagder> I made 26 changes in the last daily build
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<Bagder> alone
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<Bagder> we should get the guys work more ;-)
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<Bagder> hehe
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<Bagder> the win32 build broke, didn't it?
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<edx> huh?
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<Bagder> I think I broke it
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<edx> didnt try (even more staring to my feet)
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<edx> congrats :P
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<Bagder> http://bjorn.haxx.se/rockbox/daily/changes-20020615.txt
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<Bagder> read the first change mentioned ;-)
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<edx> LOL
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<edx> *compiling*
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<edx> one unresolved external... :)
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<edx> what file is this/
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<edx> ?
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<Bagder> current_tick, right?
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<edx> sure hehe
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<edx> what file is it in and what shall it do?
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<Bagder> I "fake" it, check uisim/x11/thread.c
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<Bagder> just increase it every now and then ;-)
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<edx> k
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<Bagder> in target it is incremented by the timer interrupt
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<edx> in what timespan is the interrupt called
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<Bagder> I'm not sure, but it might be something like 50ms between
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<edx> when do you increase it?
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<Bagder> on yield() and on sleep()
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<Bagder> I just add 3 in yeild and 5 in sleep()
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<edx> aha
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<Bagder> just to make it continue "growing"
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<edx> ill set up a timer :)
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<edx> hmm this is a variable or a function (just a variable, right?)
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<Bagder> you could do that, if you think that'll be more fun ;-)
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<Bagder> just a variable, yes
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<edx> more code more fun lol
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<Bagder> hehe
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<edx> where is current_tick declared (header file..)?
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<Bagder> kernel.h
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<edx> (ok.. works)
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<Bagder> neato
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<edx> hey cool.. the scroll character for the recorder changed. nice
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<Bagder> yeah
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<Bagder> I never liked using only a minus
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<edx> for the player its a questionmark on the simulator... is that correct ?!
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<Bagder> yes
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<Bagder> we should fix that too
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<Bagder> it's a special character on the target
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<edx> ok
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<Bagder> we just don't have that in the simulator charset
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<Bagder> seen the new link on the compile status table too?
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<edx> .. no?
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<Bagder> it makes it easy to see which changes that were committed just before the automatic build
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<edx> changelog you mean?
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<edx> that is great
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<Bagder> no I meant down in the "CVS compile status" table
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<Bagder> the "batch" dates are now links
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<edx> cool.. it colors warnings :)
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<Bagder> yeps
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<edx> .. could you do me a favour?
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<Bagder> sure, what?
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<edx> http://codeforce.d2g.com/new/ this page.. does it look ok in linux?
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<edx> (heh.. i registered a channel on openprojects.net as well lol... this irc is really useful)
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<Bagder> looks fine
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<edx> ok.. thanks
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<edx> broken my build again?! hehe
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<Bagder> heh, no, I made it nicer ;-)
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<Bagder> fixed the cursor on the simulated player
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<edx> (my build?!) hehe...
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<edx> ah cool
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<edx> thats good
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<Bagder> should work fine for you too
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<edx> hmm we should add win32 simulator for the daily page :)
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<edx> but i see no way how this would be possible :/
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<Bagder> there's no x11 simulator build daily either
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<Bagder> only automaticly for the build status one
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<Bagder> maybe that's what you meant?
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<edx> yea
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<edx> but theres a report for the sim
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<Bagder> yes
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<Bagder> it's easy to build automaticly
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<edx> and why is there a P-Old sim.. thats the same as p-sim, right?
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<Bagder> hehe, yes it should be pretty much exactly the same ;-)
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<edx> (why is tehre a p-old at all.. its only one step)
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<Bagder> p-old has a different lcd
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<edx> oh.. ok
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<Bagder> that's why
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<edx> maybe i could provide a daily build page for the win32 simulator on my server.
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<Bagder> sure!
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<edx> but i couldn't get it update automatically i guess (i could update it everytime i change something)
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<Bagder> but then we won't see it break if someone else change something...
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<edx> hmm yea
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<edx> the problem is that my server doesnt have visual studio installed...
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<edx> .. well i have an idea.. but it needs a testing.. maybe i could get it to work
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<edx> it would need to checkout, compile, generate a webpage...
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<edx> that's gets less and less a problem the more i think about it
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<edx> be right back.
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<Bagder> :-)
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<edx> Bagder: I am trying to get things compiled on my server now, if it works, i'll set up a page which updates hourly and contains the last 24 compilation reports
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<Bagder> cool!
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<edx> i hope it work if i just copy some files and dont intsall visual studio
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<dw|gone> YAY!
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<dw|gone> :D
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<Bagder> hehe
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<Bagder> hey, I *am* an old demo coder ;-)
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<edx> lol .. write the sine wave for rockbox hehe
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<Bagder> I do!
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<edx> cool :)
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<edx> screensave should be activated automatically after 5 mins of non-action lol
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<Bagder> right now, I have a 'R' that flies around the screen in a circle ;-)
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<edx> hehe
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<dw|gone> Whoa
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<dw|gone> evil stuff ):
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<dw|gone> ):
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<dw|gone> ):
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<dw|gone> :)
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<dw|gone> <-- is mongo today
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<Bagder> it looks pretty cool
|
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<dw|gone> flies around?
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<Bagder> yeah, "ROCKbox"
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<Bagder> all letters independently
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<dw|gone> cool :)
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<Bagder> on a sine wave
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<dw|gone> I guess I'll have to see it for myself
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<dw|gone> I'll check the build on monday morning
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<Bagder> hm, I wonder if I can make the rockbox logo be in the background...
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<dw|gone> hehe :)
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<dw|gone> demo coding for the archos
|
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<dw|gone> perfect for some wild compo ;)
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<Bagder> hahaha
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<dw|gone> Well, at least, the music is not a problem ;)
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<Bagder> it does require some minor lcd fixes... :-)
|
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<Bagder> time to try on target
|
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|
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<Bagder> rock!
|
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<Bagder> http://storebror.haxx.se/archos/
|
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<dw|gone> *yawn*
|
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<dw|gone> I'll test it, just for your sake ;)
|
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<Bagder> hehe
|
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<Bagder> it is just totally useless, but its fun ;-)
|
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<Bagder> I'm considering a game now ;-)
|
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<dw|gone> what about fixing broken code? :)
|
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<Bagder> nah, not as fun
|
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<Bagder> hehe
|
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<Bagder> like what code are you referring to?
|
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<dw|gone> dunno :)
|
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<dw|gone> Sometimes it locks when I start fiddling with the volume
|
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<dw|gone> hahaha
|
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<dw|gone> you are really sick :)
|
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|
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<dw|gone> really neat :)
|
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<Bagder> and they fly! ;-)
|
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<dw|gone> How come the directory browsing is 100 times faster with rockbox?
|
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<Bagder> no idea
|
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<dw|gone> I mean, when entering new dirs
|
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<Bagder> they must be doing something terrible
|
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<dw|gone> yeah
|
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<dw|gone> and the scroller still scrolls when going across dirs :)
|
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<dw|gone> If the LCD flickering stops and we get mp3 decoding, I'll start using it rightaway :)
|
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<Bagder> I agree
|
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<dw|gone> pok?mon instead of pok<6F>mon
|
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<Bagder> with our playlist support too, it'll be a killer
|
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<dw|gone> yeah
|
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<Bagder> yeah, we have no such letter
|
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<dw|gone> aren't you using the built in font?
|
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<Bagder> there is no built-in on the recorder
|
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<dw|gone> ah...
|
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<Bagder> 100% "home made" ;-)
|
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<dw|gone> ah, that's why it's butt ugly ;)
|
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|
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<dw|gone> 5x7 in a 6x8 space?
|
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<Bagder> yes
|
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<dw|gone> Less than 7 pixels vertical will not look good, but I guess it's possible to narrow it down a bit horizontally
|
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<Bagder> Yes, at least some letters
|
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<dw|gone> The main issue is long filenames
|
|||
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<dw|gone> !<21>"#! archos firmware won't even show the entire filenames ,)
|
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<dw|gone> is it possible to have 2+ simultaneous scrollers?
|
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<Bagder> edx: around?
|
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<Bagder> dw|gone: oh sure
|
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<dw|gone> with the current code, thatis
|
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<dw|gone> how do you keep the scroller running while accessing the disk at the same time?
|
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<Bagder> we use several threads
|
|||
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<Bagder> the scrolling is in its own thread
|
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<dw|gone> Do you think the archos firmware has threading?
|
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<Bagder> I don't think so
|
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<Bagder> but they could and perhaps have other limits on their threads than we do
|
|||
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<dw|gone> how big is the firmware without the padding atm?
|
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<Bagder> lemme check
|
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<Bagder> hm
|
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<Bagder> I don't quite get the map file
|
|||
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<dw|gone> mkay
|
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<dw|gone> well, approx 20k?
|
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<Bagder> when loaded, we use 4de4c ram
|
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<dw|gone> 320k
|
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<dw|gone> do you know how much the original firmware uses?
|
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<Bagder> no
|
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<Bagder> I guess I could figure out by checking my dissassembly
|
|||
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<Bagder> anyway, included in those 320K is our malloc heap etc
|
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<Bagder> currently we have no code that use malloc() ;-)
|
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<Bagder> the code is about 32700 bytes
|
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<Bagder> in this recorder build
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<Bagder> ouch, yellow alert!
|
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<elinenbe> Badger: you want to program a game -- try sokoban :)
|
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<Bagder> hehehe
|
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<Bagder> I'm thinking pong...
|
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<dw|gone> what is sokoban?
|
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<dw|gone> what about arkanoid? :)
|
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<Bagder> http://verde666.org/sed/sokoban/
|
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<dw|gone> and has Linus started looking on the decoder chip?
|
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<Bagder> its written using 'sed'
|
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<Bagder> yes
|
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* dw|gone is like a kid in a candy store
|
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<dw|gone> Rockbox already rocks without any music ;D
|
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<dw|gone> erhgm
|
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<dw|gone> With a screenshot, I STILL DON'T understadn sokoban :)
|
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<Bagder> its just the ultimate geek thing, to write a game using a tool meant for search/replace
|
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<dw|gone> aaaah :)
|
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<dw|gone> I see
|
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<Bagder> I never played it ;-)
|
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<dw|gone> I test it now :)
|
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<dw|gone> There was a port for gameboy called boxxle
|
|||
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<dw|gone> fancy :)
|
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<dw|gone> Darn
|
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<dw|gone> 16:00
|
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<dw|gone> I should finish what I'm working on and go homo
|
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<dw|gone> home ;)
|
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<dw|gone> hah
|
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<Bagder> freudian slip? ;-)
|
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<dw|gone> hehe
|
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<dw|gone> dunno
|
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<dw|gone> how many entries does the playlist support by default?
|
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<Bagder> you mean non-rockbox?
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<dw|gone> no, rockbox :)
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<Bagder> 10000
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<edx> Does anyone of you know Java a little?
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<dw|gone> mkay
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<Bagder> edx: euuh, a little, yes ;-)
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<dw|gone> great :D
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<dw|gone> I'll test loading a huge playlist
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<edx> Bagder: what does thius line do:
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<Bagder> dw|gone: Bj<42>rn has 40GB, he has no more than 5500 songs ;-)
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<edx> inURL = new URL(getCodeBase(), infile);
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<dw|gone> it constructs a url
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<edx> ok thats what i know as well.. what will the url look like?
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<dw|gone> codebase sounds JSP'ish
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<dw|gone> I dunno if it does some base64 encoding too perhaps
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<edx> ahhh .. i think i got it.
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<edx> thanks
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<dw|gone> heh.. thanks for nothing ;)
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<Bagder> edx: .. eeeeh... uuuuh. "win32 simulator break alert" :-)
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<Bagder> is there any way I can add a file to your build?
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<dw|gone> is rockbox capable of building playlists by itself yet?
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<Bagder> no
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<Bagder> we don't even have the write() function enabled
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<dw|gone> aah
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<dw|gone> smart
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<Bagder> yeah, its for safety
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<Bagder> we have no functions for altering disk contents yet
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<dw|gone> I like the boot speed of rockbox
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* Bagder agrees
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<dw|gone> Would be neat to know what exactly the archos firmware does that takes so much time
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<Bagder> yes
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<Bagder> it is possible we might need to do a few of those things too in the future
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<dw|gone> any ideas of what?
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<dw|gone> it shows the disk label as a file btw
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<Bagder> I have no clue really, I just mean that we haven't quite investigated everything yet
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<dw|gone> "INSANITY.!"
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<dw|gone> true, true
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<dw|gone> it's not possible to switch it off with the power cord in
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<Bagder> no
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<dw|gone> Time to check how fast it loads a 3000 track playlist
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<dw|gone> whoa
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<dw|gone> it interprets #-lines as files
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<Bagder> yes
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<Bagder> right
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<Bagder> I fix
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<Bagder> do they all start with # in the first column?
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<dw|gone> yeah
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<dw|gone> winamp-style
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<dw|gone> it loads the playlist FAAAAAAAST! :D
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<dw|gone> In just a couple of seconds
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<Bagder> about 1000 songs per second
|
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<Bagder> that is many many times faster than the built-in
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<dw|gone> hehe
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<dw|gone> yeah
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<dw|gone> 1 song per second is the firmware default ;)
|
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<dw|gone> or perhaps 10
|
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<dw|gone> but that's not close to 1000 ;)
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<Bagder> it is an amazingly huge diff actually
|
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<dw|gone> what happens when the unit runs of battery?
|
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<dw|gone> with rockbox firmware, that is
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<Bagder> it dies ;-)
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<Bagder> I mean run out of battery
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<Bagder> just running on battery is no diff than with power cord
|
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<dw|gone> I just wonder if there is some kind of shutdown procedure required not to harm the hard disk
|
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<Bagder> well
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<Bagder> I think we should try to do that, yes
|
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<Bagder> # support added
|
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<dw|gone> yay ;D
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<dw|gone> is the directory browser 100%?
|
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<dw|gone> I mean, showing every file and such
|
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<Bagder> yes, there's a maximum amount of files in a single dir I believe though
|
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<dw|gone> I have a dir with 4 dirs and 1 pls
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<dw|gone> it didn't show the pls
|
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<dw|gone> m3u
|
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<Bagder> !
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<Bagder> what is the playlist called?
|
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<dw|gone> Everything.m3u
|
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<dw|gone> in my dir "Electronica"
|
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<Bagder> weird
|
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<Bagder> and it happens all the time?
|
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<dw|gone> nope only once
|
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<dw|gone> now it shows " - Der Sinn d" instead of Welle erdball
|
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<Bagder> ok
|
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<dw|gone> Der Sinn des Lebens is a subdir in "Welle erdball"
|
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<Bagder> hm
|
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<dw|gone> oops
|
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<dw|gone> I just caused a hang
|
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<Bagder> I wonder if there's some bug in the target dir read code
|
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|
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<dw|gone> Trying to load a m3u with
|
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|
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<dw|gone> \ in the filename
|
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|
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<dw|gone> argh
|
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|
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<dw|gone> it's a live
|
|||
|
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<Bagder> it died while loading the playlist?
|
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|
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<dw|gone> it died for a lot of seconds
|
|||
|
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<dw|gone> then it began to live again
|
|||
|
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* elinenbe decide to go run 100 miles while gcc builds... and then MAYBE it will be done.
|
|||
|
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<Bagder> hehe, yeah it can take a while ;-)
|
|||
|
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<elinenbe> not as long as anything that is qt/kde
|
|||
|
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<Bagder> heheh
|
|||
|
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<elinenbe> koffice took forever on a 2x1500mhz pc
|
|||
|
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<Bagder> luckily, rockbox builds blazingly fast ;-)
|
|||
|
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<dw|gone> :)
|
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<elinenbe> Badger: if I want to add " -I/usr/include " to the makefile, where would I put it?
|
|||
|
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<Bagder> firmware/Makefile and apps/Makefile
|
|||
|
|
<elinenbe> I am compiling under cygwin and for some reason it does not find the header files.
|
|||
|
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<elinenbe> yeah, but how do I add it into the makefile?
|
|||
|
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<Bagder> both of them have a line like "INCLUDES=" where you can add that extra -I
|
|||
|
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<Bagder> if this is a problem to more people, we could probably fix this better
|
|||
|
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<elinenbe> the apps makefiles does, but the tools/makefile does not.
|
|||
|
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<elinenbe> It is for anyone compiling under cygwin
|
|||
|
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<Bagder> not tools, firmware
|
|||
|
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<elinenbe> g003y had this problem
|
|||
|
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<Bagder> hm, ok
|
|||
|
|
<elinenbe> too
|
|||
|
|
<Bagder> I think I know the fix for this problem
|
|||
|
|
<Bagder> we must add header files to our project, since we don't use newlib anymore
|
|||
|
|
<elinenbe> that could be the thing
|
|||
|
|
<Bagder> you build without newlib, right?
|
|||
|
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<elinenbe> yeah
|
|||
|
|
<elinenbe> I did not donload it or anything.
|
|||
|
|
<Bagder> so that's it
|
|||
|
|
<Bagder> we need to supply a bunch of headers ourselves
|
|||
|
|
<elinenbe> huff.. when I do a make all
|
|||
|
|
<elinenbe> I get this garbage
|
|||
|
|
<elinenbe> Eric@VIOLET ~/rockbox-daily-20020615/tools
|
|||
|
|
<elinenbe> $ make all
|
|||
|
|
<elinenbe> make -C ../firmware TARGET=-DARCHOS_RECORDER NODEBUG=1 OBJDIR="/home/Eric/rockbo
|
|||
|
|
<elinenbe> x-daily-20020615/tools"
|
|||
|
|
<elinenbe> make[1]: Entering directory `/home/Eric/rockbox-daily-20020615/firmware'
|
|||
|
|
<elinenbe> Updating dependencies for thread.c
|
|||
|
|
<elinenbe> Updating dependencies for system.c
|
|||
|
|
<elinenbe> system.c:19:19: warning: stdio.h: No such file or directory
|
|||
|
|
<elinenbe> Updating dependencies for settings.c
|
|||
|
|
<elinenbe> settings.c:20:19: warning: stdio.h: No such file or directory
|
|||
|
|
<elinenbe> Updating dependencies for panic.c
|
|||
|
|
<elinenbe> panic.c:20:19: warning: stdio.h: No such file or directory
|
|||
|
|
<elinenbe> and more and more of that...
|
|||
|
|
<elinenbe> it can not find the standard header files at all
|
|||
|
|
<Bagder> right, that's why we need to provide our own
|
|||
|
|
<elinenbe> is there any way around this for me?
|
|||
|
|
<Bagder> did you add -I/usr/include in the firmware/Makefile ?
|
|||
|
|
<elinenbe> yeah
|
|||
|
|
<elinenbe> hold on...
|
|||
|
|
<elinenbe> I added a /usr/includes by mistake
|
|||
|
|
<Bagder> ah
|
|||
|
|
<elinenbe> in tools I did a 'make clean'
|
|||
|
|
<elinenbe> make all
|
|||
|
|
<elinenbe> and then still get an error...
|
|||
|
|
<elinenbe> this is witht the most recent tarball
|
|||
|
|
<elinenbe> make[1]: sh-elf-a: Command not found
|
|||
|
|
<elinenbe> make[1]: *** [/home/Eric/rockbox-daily-20020615/tools/librockbox.a] Error 127
|
|||
|
|
<elinenbe> make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/Eric/rockbox-daily-20020615/firmware'
|
|||
|
|
<elinenbe> make: *** [firmware] Error 2
|
|||
|
|
<Bagder> !
|
|||
|
|
<Bagder> in tools?
|
|||
|
|
<elinenbe> I am just doing a make clean
|
|||
|
|
<elinenbe> make install
|
|||
|
|
<elinenbe> in the toold directory <-- that should build everything -- right?
|
|||
|
|
<Bagder> hm
|
|||
|
|
<elinenbe> but the make gives me that error.
|
|||
|
|
<Bagder> did you run the configure script in the tools directory?
|
|||
|
|
<elinenbe> yeah
|
|||
|
|
<elinenbe> I'll do that again to make sure everything is cool
|
|||
|
|
<Bagder> you should rather create a separate build directory and run the configure script there
|
|||
|
|
<elinenbe> ok
|
|||
|
|
<Bagder> mkdir ../build; cd ../build; ../tools/configure
|
|||
|
|
<elinenbe> I get the same thing
|
|||
|
|
<elinenbe> "sh-elf-a: command not found"
|
|||
|
|
<Bagder> is your PATH setup to include the dir with the sh-gcc tools?
|
|||
|
|
<elinenbe> lemme check
|
|||
|
|
<elinenbe> I followed the direction on the web page... the path should be something like "~/sh1/bin"
|
|||
|
|
<elinenbe> well, that is in the path
|
|||
|
|
<Bagder> make sure it is $HOME/ and not ~/
|
|||
|
|
<Bagder> or full path
|
|||
|
|
<elinenbe> it is $HOME
|
|||
|
|
<elinenbe> acutally the full path
|
|||
|
|
<Bagder> ok
|
|||
|
|
<elinenbe> in /sh1/bin I do not have a sh-elf-a, I have sh-elf-ar and sh-elf-as though
|
|||
|
|
<Bagder> yeah
|
|||
|
|
<Bagder> but if you check the Makefile, it uses as and ar only
|
|||
|
|
<elinenbe> ok
|
|||
|
|
<Bagder> seems to be the ar line that goes wrong
|
|||
|
|
<Bagder> it compiles all c source first, doesn't it?
|
|||
|
|
<elinenbe> the ar line in the makefile is messed up;
|
|||
|
|
<elinenbe> AR = sh-elf-a
|
|||
|
|
<elinenbe> that is what it says
|
|||
|
|
<Bagder> in the Makefile?
|
|||
|
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<elinenbe> yeah, all the C code is great
|
|||
|
|
<elinenbe> yeah
|
|||
|
|
<Bagder> your Makefile must've been ruined somehow
|
|||
|
|
<elinenbe> in firmware/Makefile
|
|||
|
|
<Bagder> should be -ar
|
|||
|
|
<elinenbe> well, I just got it from the tarball...
|
|||
|
|
<Bagder> odd
|
|||
|
|
<Bagder> I'll check the tarball
|
|||
|
|
<elinenbe> i just checked it -- it is there
|
|||
|
|
<elinenbe> I must have messed oit up.
|
|||
|
|
<Bagder> ah, ok
|
|||
|
|
<elinenbe> thanks for the help
|
|||
|
|
<Bagder> no problems
|
|||
|
|
<elinenbe> now my enviroment is all nice :)
|
|||
|
|
<elinenbe> there we go...
|
|||
|
|
<Bagder> we'll sort out the include problem too
|
|||
|
|
<elinenbe> no problem.
|
|||
|
|
<elinenbe> it works fine with the include added to the makefile. Is that not an ok solution?
|
|||
|
|
<Bagder> sure its ok
|
|||
|
|
<Bagder> when it makes it annoying if you wanna update often
|
|||
|
|
<Bagder> s/when/but
|
|||
|
|
<elinenbe> one last thing: how do I compile the scramble.c file?
|
|||
|
|
<Bagder> when you ran configure in that dir, the original Makefile was overwritten. Get the orginal one back and run make in there
|
|||
|
|
<elinenbe> ok
|
|||
|
|
<elinenbe> will do.
|
|||
|
|
<elinenbe> Badger: thanks so much, everything is going great
|
|||
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|
<Bagder> goodie
|
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<Bagder> bbl
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<g003y> heya
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<g003y> heya bagder
|
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<Bagder> hey ho
|
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<g003y> nice work on that include issue
|
|||
|
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<Bagder> thanks, but we're not quite there yet ;-)
|
|||
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<g003y> does the -I/to/whatever still need to be added to the makefiles?
|
|||
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<Bagder> yes, I didn't really change this yet
|
|||
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<g003y> ahhhh
|
|||
|
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<g003y> ok
|
|||
|
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<Bagder> I'm only preparing
|
|||
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<g003y> well at least you figured out the prob
|
|||
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<g003y> All I knew was the -I fixed it for me :D
|
|||
|
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<Bagder> :-)
|
|||
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<g003y> but I figured it was cygwin being all dumb on win32
|
|||
|
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<Bagder> so is your "play-screen" coming anywhere?
|
|||
|
|
<g003y> well I haven't done a ton of work recently.
|
|||
|
|
<g003y> I did get setup on source forge
|
|||
|
|
<g003y> basically right now I can compile to choose between a file scroll or id3 display
|
|||
|
|
<g003y> though I'm looking into modding the settings to store it and make it user selectable
|
|||
|
|
<Bagder> user settable is nice
|
|||
|
|
<g003y> then I will add a 3rd set of logic that will attempt to pull apart directory/filename for information
|
|||
|
|
<g003y> so it looks id3 ish
|
|||
|
|
<Bagder> remember that we can't yet store anything on disk
|
|||
|
|
<g003y> yup
|
|||
|
|
<g003y> I see the writes still return 1l
|
|||
|
|
<g003y> without doing anything :D
|
|||
|
|
<Bagder> hehe
|
|||
|
|
<g003y> so what I will do now is make the default option switchable on compile
|
|||
|
|
<g003y> then ppl will just be able to change it on the fly if they need to
|
|||
|
|
<Bagder> sounds fine
|
|||
|
|
<g003y> question for ya
|
|||
|
|
<g003y> do the playlists actually play?
|
|||
|
|
<Bagder> yes
|
|||
|
|
<g003y> dang....
|
|||
|
|
<g003y> for some reason I can't get mine going
|
|||
|
|
<g003y> it scans it and just sits there
|
|||
|
|
<Bagder> oh
|
|||
|
|
<g003y> I tried making with vi, a script and winamp
|
|||
|
|
<g003y> nothing worked for me as of a couple days ago
|
|||
|
|
<Bagder> well, to tell you the truth, I wrote the code but I have a recorder so I can't really try it on target yet ;-)
|
|||
|
|
<g003y> hahahahahahahaha
|
|||
|
|
<g003y> well I haven't really debugged into it, but the logic looks correct
|
|||
|
|
<Bagder> we might need to get someone with gdb to look at it
|
|||
|
|
<g003y> yeah I've just been "printfing" to the screen for debugging output :D
|
|||
|
|
<Bagder> yeah, and the simulators are usually pretty good too to try stuff on
|
|||
|
|
<Bagder> but not when it comes to actual mp3 playback
|
|||
|
|
<g003y> I haven't gotten mine to succesfully compile yet
|
|||
|
|
<g003y> so like the old COBOL days.... I try to get it right on the first try :D
|
|||
|
|
<Bagder> the win32 one?
|
|||
|
|
<g003y> yeah
|
|||
|
|
<g003y> but it's probably just me
|
|||
|
|
<Bagder> I wouldn't know, I've never tried ;-)
|
|||
|
|
<Bagder> I'm on the x11 one
|
|||
|
|
<g003y> the x11 seems to have more compile directions
|
|||
|
|
<g003y> I got it to compile once when I first got the firmware.
|
|||
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<g003y> though now... eh.
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<g003y> I just outright forgot how I managed it
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<g003y> I'll have to try again.
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<Bagder> it would be neat to get a cygwin version Makefile for the win32 simulator
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<g003y> oh hey.
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<g003y> there it goes with current
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<g003y> ok I was being a llame :D
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<g003y> llama that is
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<g003y> cute....
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<g003y> I need to compile the player
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<g003y> version though
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<Bagder> yes
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<Bagder> it should be possible
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<g003y> ok so it pulls apps logic from the apps directory right?
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<Bagder> yes
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<g003y> good
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<g003y> no screwing around then :D
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<Bagder> the apps should run pretty much unaltered in target and simulators
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<g003y> _should_ hehehehheh
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<g003y> the true beauty of C :D
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<Bagder> right, we can never be completely sure
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<Bagder> hey, I wrote my flying rockbox this afternoon
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<Bagder> all in simulator
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<Bagder> worked on first attempt on target
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<g003y> flying rockbox?
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<Bagder> you should see it ;-)
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<Bagder> kind of a screensaver, totally useless
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<g003y> you mean the logo?
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<g003y> ha
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<g003y> that will only work on the recorder right?
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<Bagder> no, the text Rockbox flying around on sine waves
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<Bagder> yes
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<g003y> hhahahahah... cool.
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<Bagder> if you get the simulator working, you'll see it ;-)
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<elinenbe2> Badger: will that be included in the tarball tonight?
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<Bagder> hm, no
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<elinenbe2> that is a shame
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<Bagder> or what did you mean?
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<Bagder> the includes right?
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<elinenbe2> no, your sine rockbox
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<Bagder> ah, that'll be included
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<g003y> yeah only the important stuff first :D
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<Bagder> hehe
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<elinenbe2> I am building a sokoban clone.
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<elinenbe2> I will get it done within a day or two.
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<Bagder> we could pretend it is useful as it tests the lcd functions properly ;-)
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<elinenbe2> yeah :)
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<g003y> hey I think it's cool so it needs to be included anyway :D
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<elinenbe2> g003y: everything is up and running great under cugwin here... Badger helped me earlier today.
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<g003y> coool
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<g003y> what was the last you needed to do?
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<elinenbe2> I had to add the included to the Makefiles.
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<elinenbe2> that was about it.
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<g003y> yeah
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<g003y> thats what I was saying yesterday
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<g003y> a -I/usr/include right?
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<elinenbe2> ya
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<g003y> good deal. good to see you're up & running
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<elinenbe2> I am partially throguh a sokoban clone
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<elinenbe2> but, it is slow as I am running everything on the target. I am not able to compile the simulator.
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<g003y> I just got it to compile from current myself
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<elinenbe2> how were you able to do that?
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<g003y> I sync to cvs tree
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<elinenbe2> the windows simulator?
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<elinenbe2> ah... but what did you use to compile?
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<g003y> yeah I just tried with the latest source
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<g003y> nmake from a dos window
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<elinenbe> oh
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<g003y> I have vc installed with all the paths
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<PsycoXul> so uh heh nobody's interested in writing a proper text viewer for the player's huh?
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<elinenbe> so do I, but no nmake.
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<Bagder> a text viewer should be really simple to write
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<g003y> you probably don't have all the paths registered in your environment for dos
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<PsycoXul> yeah it should be...
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<PsycoXul> i haven't had much luck with it though heh
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<g003y> you need to run the vcvars.bat which is somehere in the vc install dir
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<g003y> then run nmake in the uisimulator->win32 dir
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<elinenbe> ok
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<elinenbe> I will try that :)
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<g003y> text viewer?
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<g003y> like a text file?
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<PsycoXul> yeah
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<g003y> joc- why?
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<g003y> what you doing?
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<PsycoXul> huh? wanting to view text files?
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<PsycoXul> heh
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<g003y> yeah but just for the heck of it?
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<PsycoXul> no... for the ability to read books i've got on my archos while listening to music on it heh
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<g003y> ahhhhhhhh
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<elinenbe> I still can't run nmake.
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<g003y> thats some small text though. you'll be scrolling from here to kingdom come
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<PsycoXul> yes
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<PsycoXul> well you only really need 1 line...
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<g003y> yeah but you'd only get some many characters wide on that display
|
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<PsycoXul> i figure it'd be pretty usable if it scrolled by word
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<PsycoXul> except for words >11 chars
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<PsycoXul> heh
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<g003y> heheh
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<g003y> yeah you could scroll it, but I bet after all the work it wouldn't really be usable
|
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<g003y> in that sense
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<PsycoXul> nah i've played with a few different methods for it
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<PsycoXul> and even scrolling by char isn't unusable
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<g003y> hmmm ok
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<g003y> you're a freak :D
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<PsycoXul> heh yeah
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<g003y> though a text viewer could be used in many interesting wayts
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<Bagder> on the recorder it could be neat
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<g003y> VI for Archos :D
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<PsycoXul> but i'm just a lousy coder who can't really do it "proper" with good memory management and such like that
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<g003y> yeah the recorder has the kind of display you could pull it off with
|
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<PsycoXul> yeah
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<PsycoXul> well doesn't archos' firmware for the recorder already display text? i read it did...
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<Bagder> hm, perhaps it does ;-)
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<Bagder> I haven't tried it
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<PsycoXul> i figured the best player text viewer would have selectable modes
|
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<PsycoXul> like a 'less' style mode that gives an 11x2 window and lets you scroll around
|
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<g003y> yeah true
|
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<PsycoXul> a book mode that goes by-word scrolling
|
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<PsycoXul> etc
|
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<PsycoXul> and a bookmark feature would also be handy
|
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<PsycoXul> but unfortunately my skills as a coder aren't such that i know how about going about such a thing... heh
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<g003y> well you'd need a buffer and a file handle to get yourself started :D
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<Bagder> I think it should scroll automaticly and you'd only control the speed and pause/play
|
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<g003y> yup the scroll api is really nice
|
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<PsycoXul> my attempts at just making a simplistic by-word scrolling viewer with no fancy features have been nasty little pieces that didn't really work heh
|
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<PsycoXul> Bagder: thats a good idea
|
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<PsycoXul> save a lot of wear on the buttons heh
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<Bagder> yeah
|
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<PsycoXul> and fingers
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<Bagder> you'd only make it run as fast as you wanna read, and then lean back ;-)
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<g003y> or lean in :D
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<PsycoXul> heh
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<PsycoXul> but what is memory availability like for other tasks while mp3's are playing?
|
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<g003y> well you're only looking at one line of text right?
|
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<Bagder> the mp3 buffers are never available to anyone else, so the situation is the same all the time
|
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<g003y> you shouldn't eat up much memory doing it.
|
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<PsycoXul> yeah
|
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<Bagder> it would need *some* to prevent it from reading from disk all the time
|
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<PsycoXul> but we don't wanna keep reading from disk all the time either
|
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<g003y> well you will need an optimal character buffer
|
|||
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<Bagder> how fast can a person read? how many words a minute do an average?
|
|||
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<g003y> but you're gonna have to take the hit on disk read anyway
|
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<Bagder> 200-300?
|
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<PsycoXul> Bagder: i dunno, i think it varies pretty widely
|
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<Bagder> I guess
|
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<Bagder> just trying to estimate buffers... :-)
|
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<PsycoXul> there's also going backwards.. sometimes you just gotta go back and re-read something, or maybe you missed a word, etc
|
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<PsycoXul> and i dunno how to handle that sorta stuff with buffers heh
|
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<PsycoXul> like nicely anyways
|
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<g003y> you would need to define what going back means
|
|||
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<g003y> 1 line or word at a time?
|
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<PsycoXul> *shrug* i guess going backwards would probably be good going a whole line or so back per backwards press
|
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<PsycoXul> the way i see it maybe as far as the interface is in autoscrolling the - decreases speed and + increases it, and then play/pause does just that, and in pause mode -/+ might jump backwards/forwards a line.. or something
|
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<Bagder> not a bad idea
|
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<g003y> that could work
|
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<Bagder> ok, should it just output one word at a time, or try to "fill up" ?
|
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<PsycoXul> well i think it should try to fill at least 1 line...
|
|||
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<Bagder> and 2 if there's a single word that is >11 letters?
|
|||
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<PsycoXul> for book purposes i don't really see the need for filling both lines.. i played with that a bit and it didn't really improve readability
|
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<g003y> gotta idle
|
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<PsycoXul> yeah
|
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<PsycoXul> the 2nd line could also display something like i dunno possition or some useful thing most of the time, and a long-word wrap around like you said would probably be good
|
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<Bagder> true
|
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<PsycoXul> bookmarking could probably be just storing an offset somewhere.. like maybe a similarly named file that you could then select to go to its stored spot in the text file or something? ...
|
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<Bagder> yes
|
|||
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<PsycoXul> but i suppose thats gotta wait for writing heh
|
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<Bagder> :-)
|
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<PsycoXul> so should the buffer be a fixed size or maybe scale with scrollspeed or something?
|
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<Bagder> fixed probably easiest and probably good enough
|
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* Bagder has an embryo now
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<PsycoXul> wow
|
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<Bagder> ok, it works a little now
|
|||
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<Bagder> I added it to CVS
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<Bagder> it isn't actually used yet though
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<Bagder> night
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<g003y> bagder has an embryo? interesting.
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<PsycoXul> hehe
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<g003y> I idle for a little while and you guys get him pregnant?
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<PsycoXul> yep
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<PsycoXul> well you helped i think
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<g003y> hahaha
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<g003y> I'm not paying child support. I was tricked :D
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<PsycoXul> hehe
|
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<PsycoXul> but hey its cool
|
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<PsycoXul> textshow.c
|
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<g003y> did you get it working?
|
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<PsycoXul> i haven't tried it
|
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<PsycoXul> just looked at it for the first time a second ago
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<PsycoXul> heh
|
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<PsycoXul> looks like much cleaner code than anything i've tried to do heh
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<g003y> heh
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<Lear> Hi, gave a rockbox nightly build a test spin. Now, how do I turn it off? :)
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<Hadaka> plug the archos into the computer, then turn it on and then remove the file
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<Hadaka> optionally copy in a normal firmware from archos if you don't want to use the flashrom one
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<Lear> To turn it on, I need to turn it off first... That's the problem. And nothing happens when I plug in the USB cable.
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<Hadaka> err, unplug the charger cable
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<Hadaka> and then hold the off button for a second or two
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<Hadaka> then plug in the USB cable (not the charger cable)
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<Hadaka> make sure that the USB cable is plugged in to the computer as well
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<Hadaka> and then turn it on
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<Hadaka> it should go into the USB mode
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<Hadaka> and after that you can plug in the charger cabel
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<Lear> ah, so the charger cable caused the problem. not very obvious, imho. :)
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<Hadaka> well yes
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<Hadaka> the problem being that the charger cable forces the jukebox to be on - so the hard power off doesn't work
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<Hadaka> I found out that way before I got into rockbox - but someone should write something about that on the rockbox site
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<Hadaka> like "How do I uninstall?"
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<Lear> nope, just tried rockbox today. :)
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<green_> the h/d on my jukebox 6000 is messed up
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<green_> I got a h/d disk error while using it yesterday
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<green_> Neither Windows nor Linux can mount it.
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<green_> ..but I'm not sure how.
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<elinenbe> if you cant mount it, then it will be quite hard to format it!
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<green_> I figured it out.
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<green_> mkfs.msdos -F 32 /dev/sdc1
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<green_> It's playing mp3 files again... phew!
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<PsycoXul> you sure the batteries weren't just low?
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<elinenbe> PaycoXul: I am almost done with sokoban for the Rockbox (recorder only!)
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<PsycoXul> heh
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<PsycoXul> well good for you, and the recorder :p
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<elinenbe> you know that game?
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<elinenbe> finished my first beta
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<green_> hmmm - when I copy my files from Linux to mounted jukebox file names get truncated to 8.3. How do you avoid this/
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<PsycoXul> green_: are you mounting it as vfat or msdos?
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<elinenbe> anyone who has a recorder can now plasy sokoban on it :)
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<elinenbe> s/plasy/play
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<green_> PsycoXul: msdos
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<green_> I just tried vfat. Much better!
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<elinenbe> edx!!!
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<elinenbe> hey there.
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<elinenbe> I need some helps
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<elinenbe> can you send me a compiled win32 simulator? For some reason I can not get it to compile using nmake.
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<edx> ..
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<edx> why not (whats the error it gives you?)
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<elinenbe> my msvc is messed up.
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<elinenbe> it is nothing wrong with your package.
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<edx> it might not work at all hehe
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<edx> recorder or player compilation
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<elinenbe> I just made a sokoban clone for the rockbox, and it is kind of a pain loading it onto the AJBR every time.
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<elinenbe> I need both to tell you the truth
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<edx> ok wait a second
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<elinenbe> you can either email or DCC
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<edx> are you behind a firewall (or a server) or can i send files via irc?
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<elinenbe> I am behind a firewall, but it should work :()
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<edx> i am sorry.. i had to kill mirc
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<elinenbe> no problem.
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<edx> do you get the request (if not i'll mail you)
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<elinenbe> yeah I got the request, but I do not think the DCC is going to work
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<elinenbe> just email them.
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<elinenbe> that would be great
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<edx> adress? :)
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<elinenbe> elinenbe@umich.edu
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<edx> there it goes... 256 kb if that is ok..
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<elinenbe> no prob.
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<elinenbe> that is great
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<elinenbe> where are you located?
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<edx> you did the sokoban :)
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<elinenbe> yeah
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<edx> Germany
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<elinenbe> it is fun
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<edx> has it been uploaded, yet?
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<elinenbe> but you know what I just made it better. I put a dealy on key presses. It works more nicely
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<edx> where are you located?
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<elinenbe> s/dealy/delay
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<elinenbe> Ann Arbor, MI, USA
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<elinenbe> and I can only have 4 levels. if I have more then 4 leves I get complie errors.
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<edx> i dont know sokoban... is it integratet into the source yet?
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<elinenbe> no, but you can get it at my www page.
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<edx> what's the site's address?
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<ironi> heh i just used PalmVNC
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<ironi> cool stuff =)
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<elinenbe> that is a cool program
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<elinenbe> do you have a palm phone?
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<ironi> but its sooo slow
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<ironi> no i dont
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<edx> no i dont.. i have used vnc tho
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<ironi> i have aplain old palm III
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<elinenbe> www.umich.edu/~elinenbe/ajbrec.ajz
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<elinenbe> how do I use the recorder?
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<edx> yup
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<elinenbe> the simulator I mean
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<edx> the firmware is compiled into it
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<elinenbe> oh
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<ironi> but even through GPRS it's way too slow
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<elinenbe> hey g003y
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<edx> i can make a compilation with your sokoba if you have source where a main function exists
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<g003y> heya
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<edx> sokoban...
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<edx> hi
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<g003y> see you got your clone working.
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<g003y> unfortunately I don't have a recorder :(
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<elinenbe> dont worry about it I will get it into the CVS
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<g003y> only anonymous still
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<g003y> I contacted Zagor, but haven't heard back
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<edx> hmm i'll compile sokoban for the simulator.. :)
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<ironi> what's up with this clone?
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<g003y> it works :D
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<elinenbe> I just made a sokoban clone for the recorder.
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<g003y> I think...
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<edx> now i know what sokoban is.. damn that rocks
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<edx> i compiled a win32 sim with it
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<edx> interested anyone? :)
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<edx> i'll put it on my webserver and post the address in the mailing list lol
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<elinenbe> well, the sokoban is only 4 levels. I could not make it more.
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<elinenbe> something about confliction addresses.
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<edx> hmm
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<edx> i like it very much
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<edx> it's a cool game! :) great design
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<edx> http://codeforce.d2g.com/rockbox/sokoban(win32sim).exe
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<edx> unforutnalely it doesnt seem to work at the moment
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<edx> (the address i mean)
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<edx> i have to leave now... good night
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<g003y> see ya
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<ironi> well
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<ironi> hm
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<ironi> id love to make an arkanoid game for the player
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<g003y> oh yeah
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<ironi> but is i tpossible to control the dots?
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<g003y> the player is not as flexible as the record that way
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<ironi> or is it just possible to use symbols int he different squares
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<elinenbe> you could possibly do something like arkanoid on the player
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<elinenbe> it would be much harder though
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<g003y> yup
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<ironi> so the player display only accepts symbols?
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<ironi> i.e. i cant control every one of the ....lets say 9 dots in every char
|
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<ironi> separately
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<g003y> only accepts a set of valid characters as defined in the characters table
|
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<g003y> I believe
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<g003y> it's not bitmap based like the recorder
|
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<g003y> hence why all these cool little games are happening for the recorder
|
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<elinenbe> well, the characters are 7x9 or something likee that -- rihgt?
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<g003y> but the player mod can play mp3s at least :D
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<g003y> soemthing like that... I'd have to look at the code
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<elinenbe> that is true, but soon so will the recorder.
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<g003y> yeah anyword on that ?
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<elinenbe> nothing definitly
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<g003y> too bad archos didn't use the same chipsets. it would probably have it already then
|
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<Hadaka> I think I might be making a demo on a recorder for a party that's sometime next year
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<elinenbe> go for it. That would be great.
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<elinenbe> I think I am going to do a vector engine.
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<g003y> asteroids !
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<g003y> :D
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<elinenbe> then you would have to do sin tables and stuff like that.
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<elinenbe> maybe I won't do that...
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<g003y> heheheheheehe
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<g003y> starts to sound more like work than fun eh?
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<g003y> netsplit
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<g003y> love those. they are like virtual roller coaster rides :D
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<ironi> hehe
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<ironi> well i dont get very excited though :-P
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<g003y> heheh
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<g003y> w00t... my stuff almost works :D
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<g003y> just a bit of tweaking on the string parsing and menu exit & done
|
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<ironi> what is it that you are doing?
|
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<g003y> making a user selectable mp3 play display
|
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<g003y> the mod right now only does id3
|
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<g003y> I'm adding a couple more options to this
|
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<g003y> one is scroll the filename ala classic firmware
|
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<g003y> and two is more of a path parsing to pull out relevant information
|
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<g003y> as well as maintain the option of id3 tag display
|
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<ironi> is that just for recorder?
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<g003y> no player
|
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<g003y> I only have a player right now
|
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<ironi> great
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<ironi> i have player
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<g003y> I may leave the recorder implementation up to someone else :D
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<ironi> so can you pleas emake the recation on click when scrolling a bit delayed
|
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<g003y> plus I will have to integrate this with playlist functionality once it's done
|
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<ironi> as it is now its way too fast
|
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<ironi> reaction
|
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<ironi> i'd love to try what you have done
|
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<ironi> to give you feedback
|
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<g003y> I'm sure it could be tweaked, but I don't have ssh access to the tree did
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<g003y> yeah I'll post it
|
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<g003y> I just have to get the menu exit right.
|
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<ironi> i haven't set up a compile environment, really
|
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<ironi> :P
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<ironi> maybe i should
|
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<g003y> are you on win32?
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<ironi> yup
|
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<g003y> then it's as easy as Zagor's directions
|
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<g003y> so long as you install cygwin
|
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<ironi> i do have a linux box, but it's just 486 dx4/100
|
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<ironi> maybe too slow
|
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<g003y> hahaha... wow been awhile since I've seen one of those
|
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<ironi> I was considering vmware
|
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<g003y> depends on how fast you want your mod file :D
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<g003y> anyway I'm compiling on win32/cygwin myself
|
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<ironi> i have it installed already
|
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<ironi> yeah? well isnt it so much more convenient to do it in linux?
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<g003y> it doesn't matter tome
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<g003y> cygwin gives ya a bash shell
|
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<g003y> from there it all feels the same
|
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<g003y> works the same as well
|
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<ironi> oh really
|
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<g003y> you should have the same tools at your disposal as a linux install
|
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<ironi> lemme see
|
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<g003y> yup
|
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<ironi> The new v0202 version now uses MinGW instead of Cygwin.
|
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<ironi> should i get the new one then?
|
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<g003y> huh?
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<g003y> v0202 of what?
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<ironi> gnush toolchain
|
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<g003y> I don't use gnush toolchain
|
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<ironi> but what then
|
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<g003y> that is only another way to do it, but it was more difficult to setup IMO
|
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<ironi> that is the instructions on the rockbox page
|
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<ironi> ok tlel me what to do
|
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<ironi> tell
|
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<g003y> http://bjorn.haxx.se/rockbox/cross-gcc.html
|
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<g003y> install cygwin
|
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<g003y> then do that from the shell
|
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<ironi> ok brb
|
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<g003y> I belive edx is using the gnush
|
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<g003y> toolkit
|
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<g003y> elinenbe did it my way with success as well
|
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<g003y> well really Zagor's way :D
|
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<ironi> cygwin installer is a mess
|
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<g003y> it's not that bad.
|
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<g003y> you just have to select things ala the package menu
|
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<ironi> well
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<g003y> ouch
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<ironi> i dont understand a thing from the packae install
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<ironi> prev curr exp
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<ironi> previous current expected?
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<g003y> exp probably is experimental
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<ironi> can i actually install X here?
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<ironi> and run it under iwndows
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<g003y> IDK... I don't do X
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<ironi> well it wa sin the options
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<ironi> it seems like one can install a complete linux system to run under windows
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<g003y> well maybe you can, but I've never tried it nor have I known anyone to do it that wayy
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<ironi> ok
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<g003y> good choice :D
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<ironi> oh i need ot get binutils and stuff
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<g003y> you do all that after you install cgywin to get it updated
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<g003y> you'll need to recompile gcc per his directions on the website.
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<g003y> which means you will need gcc & make and all that installed
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<g003y> you can get the tarballs for the stuff from Gnu.
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<ironi> ok cygwin instaslled
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<ironi> so now what
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<ironi> update it?
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<g003y> follow the directions on the url I posted
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<ironi> wooo
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<ironi> this is soo cool
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<g003y> yeah *nix shell on win32 :). spooky even.
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<ironi> well it seems terribly slow though
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<g003y> what is terribly slow?
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<g003y> no probs here
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<g003y> though I just went to the gnu site, and fetched it with IE. Saved it to the proper directory and extracted it all from the cygwin shell
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<ironi> oh really
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<g003y> yeha
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<g003y> you got unixy power and ease of IE available to you :D
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<ironi> then i can use d/l accelerator
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<ironi> way faster
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<g003y> do it the way the website shows, but from the cygwin shell so you get all the tools you need.
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<ironi> i see
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<ironi> well im familiar with linux
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<g003y> alright then you should be ok
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<ironi> i dont like the look of this bash shell
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<ironi> i want directory
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<ironi> heh actually never done that
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<ironi> well llook into it later
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<g003y> yeah
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<g003y> I didn't set that up
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<ironi> k
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<g003y> I do it the painful way
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<ironi> compile an dcopy to the archos?
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<ironi> and
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<g003y> yup :D
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<g003y> like the old cobol days
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<ironi> but is remote debugging possible in window stoo?
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<g003y> IDK
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<g003y> probably
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<ironi> cc not found
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<g003y> change CC=cc to CC=gcc in the makefile
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<ironi> k
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<ironi> ah
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<ironi> text editor
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<ironi> none
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<g003y> vi
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<ironi> no :/
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<g003y> stupid cygwin
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<g003y> you should be able to go back and install that package
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<ironi> ill just use my win text editor
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<g003y> that shoudl workd
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<ironi> yup
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<ironi> so i change it to gcc and try configure again
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<g003y> yeah
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<ironi> well i didnt have gcc either
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<g003y> oh well install it :D
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<g003y> you need a current rev to get yourself started
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<ironi> i tell you, cygwin installer suxx
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<g003y> I don't like the package selection either
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<g003y> but once it's installed it works
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<ironi> well yes
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<ironi> it owuld be coolt with an apt-like system heh
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<ironi> cyg-get gcc
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<ironi> =)
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<g003y> yes
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<g003y> that would be nice
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<ironi> wouldnt be too har dot accomplish sinc eit already is installing by downloading packages
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<ironi> prolly possible to fix in a perl script
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<g003y> does it have one once you install the main portion of cygwin?
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<g003y> I've never seen one, but it might exist :D
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<ironi> im trying aain
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<ironi> again
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<g003y> and again :D
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<ironi> it seems to be able to configure now
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<ironi> but its acting like a p133 or something
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<g003y> eww
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<ironi> http://xfree86.cygwin.com/screenshots/cygwin-xfree86-wmaker.png
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<ironi> i have to try X under cygwin
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<ironi> prolly slow
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<g003y> probably
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<g003y> but it is kind of funny
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<ironi> eyeah
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<ironi> well its kinda stupid when one looks at vmware
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<ironi> i wish there was a open source vmware clone
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<ironi> u still there g003y
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<ironi> damn
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<ironi> my cygwin dir is 300 mb now
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<ironi> that sucls
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<adi|home> anyone know off hand who commited bounce.[ch]?
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<adi|home> nm
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<ironi> http://www.spiegel.de/img/0%2c1020%2c190869%2c00.jpg
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<dwihno> Yay, sokoban rules :D
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<myshkin> lo
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* myshkin notes twin is cool :p
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<myshkin> a good escape from lame X11
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<dwihno> is it good? :)
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<dwihno> I never tried it, I've always sticked to screen
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<myshkin> heh
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<myshkin> it's funky
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<myshkin> I like it...
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<myshkin> I still use screen ;p
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<dwihno> I'll try to compile it and test it out
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<myshkin> heh
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<myshkin> using debian?
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<myshkin> if so, there is a decent package for it.
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<myshkin> I compiled my own, out of sheer boredom
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* myshkin quaffs a jolt cola
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<myshkin> oh yeah, this is me, adam, or kitsune, or whatever
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<myshkin> I've settled on this name, for now ;)
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<dwihno> mkay
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<myshkin> twsetroot == funny, I've got my ascii art motd as a 'background'
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<dwihno> yay
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<adi|dads> anyone around or everyone sleeping?
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<Bagder> moo
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<dwihno> YIKES!
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* dwihno jumps high
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* dwihno ends up sitting in a tree
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<Bagder> :-)
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<dwihno> Did you enjoy the weekend?
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<Bagder> I certainly did
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<Bagder> you?
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<dwihno> Hmm. I spent the saturday working on a project, and yesterday I did my laundry and cleaned my appartment ;)
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<dwihno> I guess there are funnier things to do, but at least, it's done.
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<dwihno> "I br<62>nnvin ska du bada, i Bacchi lada"
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<Bagder> the build is.... *red*
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<dwihno> :O
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<dwihno> OH MY GOOOOD! :(
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<dwihno> Call in the TASK FORCE!
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* Bagder dials 911
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* dwihno dials 1-800-BAGDER
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<dwihno> :D
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* dwihno dials 1-800-ZAGOR
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* dwihno dials 1-800-LINUS
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<dwihno> Hmm, "numret du ringer har flyttat, men saknar referens" :)
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<dwihno> Good morning Linus, welcome back to the wonderful world of ROCKBOX! :D
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<Linus> Thank you! :-)
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<Bagder> hey Linus
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<Bagder> Linus: I don't really undertand the current compile-status link breakage, can you have a look at it?
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<elinenbe> hello there
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<Bagder> morning elinenbe
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<Linus> It means that the pad section overlaps the rodata section
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<Linus> the pad section is located at an absolute address
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<Bagder> but what is the pad section for?
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<Linus> remove it
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<elinenbe> would it be possible to get CVS access?
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<Linus> the pad section is for ....padding...
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<Linus> you know the minimum size thing
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<Bagder> padding what?
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<Bagder> aaah
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<Linus> the archos firmware doesn't load very small .mod files
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<elinenbe> 2:30 am -- US vs. Mexico! I am holding out here.
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<Linus> DERBY!
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<elinenbe> hey, what is up with fillrect() -- I tried to use this on the recorder, and it just gave me a blinking led light
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<Linus> Oh, we accidentally misspelled the lcd_blink() function.
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<Linus> Sorry, couldn't resist... :-)
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* dwihno loves the sokoban gokomuku game! :D
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<Bagder> elinenbe: mail your sf account user name to Bj<42>rn to get cvs access
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<Linus> elinenbe: no text on screen?
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<elinenbe> Badger: will do.
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<elinenbe> Linus: what do you mean no text on screen?
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<elinenbe> I was just making that little sokoban game, and I attempted to use fill_rect() (something like that) and it never worked properly.
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<Bagder> elinenbe: did you try to fill a big rectangle?
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<elinenbe> not at all..
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<Linus> elinenbe: I mean "no error message?"
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<elinenbe> maybe 4x4 pixels
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<Bagder> oh
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<elinenbe> oh. yeah there was NO error message
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<Bagder> btw, I think I've broken lcd_invertrect()
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<Bagder> whatever that function is supposed to be good for
|
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<elinenbe> that worked in my game. I used it for the winning screen
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<elinenbe> it gives a nice flash effect
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<Bagder> well, were you using the cvs sources?
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<elinenbe> no -- yesterdays tarball
|
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<Bagder> ok
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<Bagder> I modified the behavior on saturday
|
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<elinenbe> Badger: what happened to Sweden in the Cup?
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<Bagder> lost against Senegal
|
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<Bagder> yesterday
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<dwihno> yeah :(
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<dwihno> Such a sad moment!
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<Linus> Bagder: only the recorder has reached the minimum size
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<Bagder> oh
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<Bagder> eh
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<dwihno> Andersson did a really cool circus number trying to score
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<Bagder> can we make it conditional somehow?
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<Linus> I don't think so, we may need two lds files
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<Bagder> or can we have multiple -T options perhaps?
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<Linus> multiple?
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<Bagder> I hate having two files almost identical
|
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<Bagder> would be better if the pad thing could be included with a second -T optin
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<elinenbe> When I tried to compile more levels into the sokoban game, it gave me an error -- is there a maximum size for variables or something like that?
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<Bagder> elinenbe: we're fixing that just noww
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<elinenbe> oh great. that is nice.
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<Linus> elinenbe: quick fix: cvs update firmware/app.lds
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<Bagder> I made a separate lds file now
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<Bagder> elinenbe: you did notice your added files make the build go yellow? ;-)
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<elinenbe> yeah -- there was a sprintf
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<elinenbe> or something like that. I will fix it.
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<Bagder> have Bj<42>rn add you to the dev team first, then you can do it yourself with cvs
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<Bagder> hey green
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<elinenbe> yeah I will do that.
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<Bagder> hey ho Z
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<Zagor> hey
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<Bagder> he comes here CTCP-versioning us all and then leaves...
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<Zagor> looking for vulns, no doubt
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<Bagder> indeed
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<dwihno> damn those h4x0rs
|
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<Zagor> oooh, sokoban :)
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<dwihno> Zagor: I'm WAAAAY ahead of you! :D
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<Bagder> you absent person ;-)
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<Zagor> yeah, i was /away this weekend
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<Bagder> Zagor: you need to add elinenbe to the sf project so that he can fix the yellow build ;-)
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<Zagor> righty, what's his sf username?
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<Bagder> elinenbe: booo! here?
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<Zagor> two klez mails for the list blocked already
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<Bagder> yeah, but one true spam got through... :-/
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<Zagor> yup
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<Bagder> cought in my filter though ;-)
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<Bagder> caught
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<Bagder> X-Spam-Because: subject matched regex "[A-Z0-9]+.*[A-Z]{3,}.*[A-Z]{5,}.*[A-Z]{3,}"
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<Bagder> !!
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<dwihno> the range {3,} means unlimited?
|
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<Bagder> 3 to to unlimited, yes
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<dwihno> mkay
|
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* dwihno just learned something new
|
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* dwihno fixes some code rightaway ;D
|
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<Bagder> haha
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<dwihno> :)
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<Bagder> Zagor: we should evaluate SpamAssasin for filtering the list
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<Zagor> have you looked at it?
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<Bagder> no, but I've read a bunch of good things about it
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<Bagder> seems to be about the same concept like my blockspam
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<Bagder> but better implemented
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<Zagor> ok
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<dwihno> as long as it has 50+ command line options, it ruulez ;)
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<dwihno> software with less = bad :)
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<Bagder> curl --help | grep - -- | wc -l
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<Bagder> 79
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<Bagder> :-)
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<dwihno> :D
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<Zagor> have any of you guys had a problem starting the archos firmware once you've ran rockbox?
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<Bagder> nope
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<Zagor> some people in the yahoo list indicates problems of that kind
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<elinenbe> I am hgere
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<elinenbe> I am here
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<elinenbe> I just watched USA beat Mexico 2-0!!!!
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<Bagder> elinenbe: tell Zagor your sf account name
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<Zagor> hey, elinenbe. what's your sf name?
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<elinenbe> I am most positive it is elinenbe
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<Zagor> ok
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<Linus> I have had the restart problem in my recorder
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<Linus> it turns out that the extension of the firmware has a meaning
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<Bagder> how did you solve it?
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<Linus> The only firmware file on my recorder was ajbrec.ejz
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<Zagor> elinenbe: you're added
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<elinenbe> thanks. what is the meaning of the firmware extension?
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<Linus> i copied it to ajbrec_orig.ejz and copied the new ajbrec.ajz to the HD
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<Linus> worked OK
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<Bagder> yes, that .ejz file is mysterious
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<Linus> then i wanted to go back to the original
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<Linus> so i removed the ajbrec.ajz and copied the ajbrec_orig.ejz to ajbrec.ejz
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<Linus> no go. it booted from the ROM
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<Linus> i renamed ajbrec.ejz to ajbrec.ajz. no go
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<Linus> i had to download a new ajbrec.ajz from archos web site
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<Linus> really strange
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<Bagder> no, .ejz and .ajz are not the same kinds of files
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<Bagder> they look very different
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<Zagor> interesting
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<Zagor> i didn't know that
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<Linus> i wonder what the difference is
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<Zagor> do any of you have an .ejz file we can look at?
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<Bagder> I do
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<Linus> maybe it is descrambled?
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<Bagder> my thoughts too
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<Bagder> but there's no strings at all visisble for example
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<elinenbe> Linus: what is the status of audio on the recorder?
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<Zagor> but then why doesn't it work when you replace it?
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<Bagder> they are also differently sized
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<Bagder> -rwxr-xr-x 1 daniel daniel 111130 Apr 8 23:48 AJBREC.ajz
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<Bagder> -rwxr-xr-x 1 daniel daniel 136938 Apr 8 23:48 ajbrec.ejz
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<Zagor> it sure looks unscrambled
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<Linus> elinenbe: patience, Grasshopper...
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<dwihno> No status at all ? :-)
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<Zagor> at least the vector table appears intact
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* dwihno is tiny grasshopper too
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<Linus> I have I2C contact with the chip.
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<elinenbe> Grasshopper?
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<Zagor> nah, the vector table is not right
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<Linus> elinenbe: A line from a kung-fu TV series. I have forgotten its' name.
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<Bagder> Zagor: did you notice the "ARCH" text in the beginning?
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<dwihno> it's always grasshoppers in the kung-fu movies
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<Zagor> yes
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<dwihno> Zagor is grasshopper too
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<elinenbe> brb
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<Bagder> need... more... coffee
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<Linus> Actually, the name of the TV series _is_ "Kung Fu".
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<Linus> The apprentice is called Caine, and his master is called Master Kan or something
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<Linus> A real classic
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<Zagor> brb
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<ironi> Zagor
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<Zagor> mm?
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<ironi> hi! =)
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<Zagor> ah :)
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<Bagder> Zagor: checked that FAT bug report yet?
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<Zagor> nope, will do
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<Zagor> just got a core when shuffling the playlist...
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<Bagder> oh
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<Zagor> deep in X
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<Bagder> hua
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<Zagor> the ATA bug report is wrong
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<Bagder> oh
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<Zagor> we do use 'startsector', only not where he thought it would be
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<Zagor> he had to make the change because he disabled caching
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<Bagder> well, fine then ;-)
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<ironi> i built the compiling ewnvironment using cygwin
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<ironi> it worked fine
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<Bagder> neato
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<Bagder> no include warnings?
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<Bagder> did you build with newlib or not?
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<ironi> well m y point was that cygwin just messed up and i deleted it
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<ironi> cause it sucks.
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<ironi> but it's acool idea.
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<ironi> now im going for vmware instead.
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<ironi> =)
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<Bagder> heh
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<ironi> real linux :-P
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<ironi> its kinda cool that you can assign a iso image as the cdrom for the virtual machine
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<Bagder> It Works Better (tm)
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<ironi> vmware in general impresses me a lot.
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<Bagder> its cool enough
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<ironi> something else taht is cool is PalmVNC
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<ironi> with the scaling-enabled VNC server
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<ironi> you can even get the desktop scaled to fit on the pal m screen, heh
|
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<ironi> people come up with the neatest things
|
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<Bagder> :-)
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<Zagor> hmm, should FAT shortnames be all uppercase or all lowercase?
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<Bagder> no idea
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<Bagder> I like lowercase better of course
|
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<Zagor> I just created "allfiles.m3u" and it became all uppercase and thus not recognized as a playlist :)
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<Bagder> hehe
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<Bagder> not case insensitive yet, huh? ;-)
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<Zagor> btw, I think we should jump through some hoops to support winamp-generated playlists. i.e. handle backslash, no preceding slash and also disk names.
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<Bagder> well
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<Bagder> the paths will be wrong anyway, won't they?
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<Zagor> why?
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<Bagder> because winamp will use the full path to the tracks
|
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<Bagder> and we won't use the same paths
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<Bagder> or maybe we will
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<Bagder> if we cut off the disk name
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<Zagor> yeah, but the archos is a new disk (F: for example) so the path will be ok
|
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<Zagor> exactly
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<Bagder> good point
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<Bagder> so yes, we should convert slashes and ignore disk names
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<Bagder> I made it ignore #-lines the other day
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<Zagor> good
|
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<Zagor> for some reason, winamp creates one # line for every file when creating a new list. there's no info on the line, just the filename...
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<Bagder> it supposedly can store time info etc there
|
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<Bagder> song lengths
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<Zagor> i'll make them lowercase
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<Zagor> umm, or maybe not. lowercasing CP437 is not so fun...
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<calpefrosch> hi
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<Bagder> hi calpefrosch
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<Zagor> heyyy, froggie! :)
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<calpefrosch> the list of users has grown
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<calpefrosch> since I went in holidays
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<Zagor> Bagder: what is the idea with this code:
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<Zagor> if('/' == now_playing[1])
|
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<Zagor> return &now_playing[1];
|
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<Zagor> when will the second character be a slash?
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<Bagder> to prevent two initial slashes
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<Bagder> it usually is
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<Zagor> usually?
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<Bagder> if the file name was an absolute path
|
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<Bagder> it loads the file name from position 1
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<Bagder> s/from/at
|
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<Zagor> ah, yes. missed that.
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<Bagder> we might not want that safety precautions
|
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<Zagor> why not?
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<Bagder> its just a matter of where to draw the line
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<Bagder> adding a preceeding slash will hardly make us find the right file anyway
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<Bagder> if the playlist uses relative paths
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<Zagor> in my test case it would work, so I'd say it has a value
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<Bagder> so leave it
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<Bagder> I mean, leave it in there
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<Zagor> yes
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<Zagor> this should make most winamp playlists work
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<Linus> I just tried the PLAY key in the recorder. It doesn't work. Why?
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<Zagor> because we now only check for the RIGHT key. it was part of the #ifdef cleanup.
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<Zagor> yes, it's wrong :(
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<Zagor> :)
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<Zagor> uh, my recorder menu key stopped working???
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<Zagor> sim
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<Zagor> bah, my silly X doesn't send the events!
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<ironi> heh
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<Bagder> yoyo?
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<Bagder> :-)
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<Linus> Zagor: it sucks to have a modem, right? :-)
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<Zagor> yeah, trying to get a new kernel on this damn redhat box but the initrd junk barfs on me
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<Zagor> is there a point to sokoban.c having #ifdef HAVE_LCD_BITMAP around the whole code?
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<Zagor> i'm removing it
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<Bagder> no point
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* Zagor is listening to whole-disk random playback. And smiles.
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<Bagder> I think g003y said he couldn't make playlist work this weekend
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<Bagder> was that the play button not doing right?
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<Zagor> yeah, some ppl on yahoo said that too. i think it was probably us being picky about playlist formwat
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<Zagor> that's fixed now
|
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<Bagder> so you tried making a playlist with winamp and play it yet?
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<Zagor> yep, that's what I'm playing now
|
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<Bagder> ok
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<Bagder> coolio
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<Bagder> wow, going towards a green build again
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<Zagor> and having shuffle as an option makes a lot more sense, I think
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<dwihno> yay
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<Bagder> Zagor: it does
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<Bagder> however, now you can't re-shuffle, can you?
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<alkorr> hi !
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<Zagor> just start the list again
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<Bagder> Zagor: so it re-seeds on playlist load?
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<Bagder> hi alan
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<alkorr> i'm learning now that we don' need newlib any longer to compile rockbox :)
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<Zagor> Bagder: yes, using current_tick
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<Bagder> ok
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<Bagder> we should remake the makefiles to use the include files I added
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<Zagor> Linus: can I get my player-new some day, for testing?
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<Zagor> hmm, what happens if a playlist file isn't found?
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<Zagor> it stops
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<Bagder> it won't be loaded ;-P
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<alkorr> in fact, we should have keep includes but just change add our own headers for non-simulator part
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<alkorr> but never mind
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<alkorr> :)
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<Bagder> I'll rebuild my gcc without newlib
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<alkorr> what ? "permission denied" ???
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<Bagder> ?
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<Zagor> hehe, the scroll is quite slow while loading mp3 data :)
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<alkorr> i cannot access cvs !?
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<Linus> Zagor: no way. I sold it. :-)
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<alkorr> cvs -z9 update -P (in directory E:\rockbox\apps\)
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<alkorr> Permission denied, please try again.
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<alkorr> Permission denied, please try again.
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<alkorr> Permission denied (publickey,password,keyboard-interactive).
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<Zagor> strange
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<Bagder> I haven't had any problems
|
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<alkorr> i try again
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<Bagder> caps lock? :-)
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<alkorr> aahh good idea
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<alkorr> nope, i'm really in trouble
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<Bagder> hey, did you check the "bounce" screen? ;-)
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<alkorr> "bounce" ?
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<Bagder> I had a little time over this weekend... hehe
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<Bagder> got to excercise the lcd api a bit
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<Zagor> Linus: boohoo! how about some chicken lunch tomorrow?
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<Bagder> damned gcc
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<alkorr> i'm trying to login sourceforge.net to check
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<Linus> Zagor: great idea! 11:30?
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<Bagder> /tmp/ccR7qwZa.s: Assembler messages:
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<Bagder> /tmp/ccR7qwZa.s:2: Error: Rest of line ignored. First ignored character is `!'.
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<Bagder> /tmp/ccR7qwZa.s:3: Error: Rest of line ignored. First ignored character is `!'.
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<Bagder> /tmp/ccR7qwZa.s:4: Error: Rest of line ignored. First ignored character is `!'.
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<Bagder> fun huh?
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<Bagder> :-/
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<alkorr> what are the lines ?
|
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<Bagder> no idea, the file is generated and then removed when I wanna check it out
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<Bagder> /tmp/ccR7qwZa.s:47: Error: no such 386 instruction: `rotcl'
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<alkorr> -save-temp
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<alkorr> ahahaha
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<Bagder> it seems to be a confusion to which cpu it is for
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<alkorr> 386 !?
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<Bagder> yeah
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<Bagder> --target=sh-elf
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<alkorr> ok i know
|
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<alkorr> you are calling the bad 'as'
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<Bagder> "the bad as" ?
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<alkorr> it must be 'sh-elf-as'
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<alkorr> yes it seems it calls not the right 'as' (assembler)
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<Bagder> all I do is invoke configure
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<Bagder> and then make
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<alkorr> oh you mean it doesn't come from the rockbox source ?
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<Bagder> this is gcc
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<Bagder> 3.0.3
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<Bagder> I'm trying to build a cross compiler without newlib
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<alkorr> when you compile gcc 3.0.3 ? huh... i don't remember to have the same error...
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<alkorr> well i compile gcc 3.0.3 but i fail to compile newlib, even when i asked not to add it
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<alkorr> compiled
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<alkorr> but as it compiled gcc before
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<alkorr> well i just make a 'make install' and it looks as if working
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<Zagor> does anyone know any unfixed bugs right now?
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<Bagder> thinking og 1.1 release?
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<Bagder> of
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<Zagor> yes
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<alkorr> normally i followed the instructions given by Linus
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<Zagor> it's been over two weeks
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<Bagder> yeah, its time
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<Zagor> since 1.0 and over one week since we met the roadmap for 1.1
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<alkorr> and my only problem came from newlib compilation, not during gcc
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<Bagder> I'll sort it out
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<alkorr> when you compile, just try to configure without any SH binary paths added in PATH
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<alkorr> no it is stupid for me
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<alkorr> it is the contrary
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<alkorr> you must add the as,ld, etc. for SH target in PATH when configuring and compiling gcc
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<alkorr> did you make it ?
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<Bagder> yes
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<alkorr> strange...
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<alkorr> yes but for as or sh-elf-as ?
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<Bagder> sh-elf-as is the SH versin, as is the native version
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<alkorr> because i put the path where to find sh-elf-as
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<Bagder> I have them all
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<alkorr> weird...
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<Bagder> I have a theory I'm trying out now
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<alkorr> zagor: password for cvs is the same for sourceforge.net login ???
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<Zagor> yes
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<alkorr> OK
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<alkorr> I KNOW WHAT HAPPENS
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<alkorr> I MUST INVERT CASE
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<alkorr> IT IS BECAUSE I'VE GOT A new keyboard, very weird !!!!
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<Zagor> Bagder: the ejz file, was it the one that came with your archos?
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<Bagder> yes
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<alkorr> aaahh i happen to get managed with downloading them. I was afraid. :/
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<alkorr> ok try them. CU !
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<Bagder> hm, right
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<Bagder> --prefix has to match the binutils path when I build gcc
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<Bagder> Zagor: you ready to cut off the newlib headers?
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<Zagor> i haven't looked at it in a while. are we there?
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<Bagder> yes
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<Zagor> excellent. i am ready
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<Bagder> but I thought I'd install a newlib-less gcc too
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<Bagder> so that I can see for myself
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* Bagder installs
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<Zagor> yes, good idea
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<Bagder> since elinbe and g003y both installed without newlib
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<Bagder> they got include errors when compiling
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<plmirc> hi
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<Bagder> hey ho plmirc
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<plmirc> want to test something on a archos 10G ?
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<Bagder> nothing in particular right now, I think, get the latest binary and play around and see if it works!
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<plmirc> ata -2
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<plmirc> with the last one
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<Bagder> gosh!
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<plmirc> the only one which work is the one that linus send me
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<Bagder> hm
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<Bagder> I thought we added Linus' check
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<plmirc> me too
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<Bagder> Zagor: any clues?
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<Zagor> hmmm
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<Zagor> odd
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<Zagor> the check is added
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<Zagor> where did linus go?
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<Bagder> dunno
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<plmirc> why isn't there a firmware for today about recorder version ?
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<Zagor> *someone* broke it...
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<plmirc> the last one is for yesterday
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<Bagder> plmirc: if you check the build status at the bottom, you can see the red boxes...
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<Zagor> look further down on the page and you see that the recorder build failed in the 23:40 build
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<Bagder> Zagor: with our own "libc" headers in include/ we could move a few dir.h and file.h etc protos into the "regular" header files
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<Zagor> yup
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<plmirc> i don't see red boxes only green at the 2002-06-17 2012:20:00 linse
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<plmirc> i don't see red boxes only green at the 2002-06-17 2012:20:00 line
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<Zagor> yes but the daily build is made at 06:00
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<Bagder> 04:00 GMT actually
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<Zagor> right
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<plmirc> so we have wait to 2 hours before have the daily build for recorder
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<Zagor> we have to wait 14 hours for the next build
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<Zagor> daily means "once per day". and that once is 04:00 GMT
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<plmirc> hmm ok
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<plmirc> and if one crash.. there is anything for the day
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<Zagor> but you can grab my latest at bjorn.haxx.se/rockbox/recorder/ajbrec.ajz
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<plmirc> oki
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<Zagor> we make more frequent development builds, but there is little point in publishing them
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<Bagder> uff
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<Bagder> sim build died
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<Zagor> I can imagine
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<plmirc> ata -2
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<plmirc> again ... :'(
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<Zagor> plmirc: ok
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<Bagder> ok, it seems to work now
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<Bagder> no newlib headers
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<Zagor> nice
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<Bagder> and the replacement ones are really small
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<Zagor> i'm removing newlib from the gcc instructions, then
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<Bagder> yep
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<Zagor> do you specify --without-newlib or nothing at all?
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<Zagor> when compiling gcc
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<Bagder> nothing at all
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<Zagor> ok
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<Zagor> updated
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<Bagder> dang
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<Bagder> red builds red builds
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<Bagder> ctype
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<Zagor> booo!
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<Zagor> we need ctype for strcasecmp later anyway
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<Bagder> yeah
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<Zagor> this shuffle playback rocks!
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<plmirc> zagor : you want a retest it now ?
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<plmirc> zagor : you want I retest it now ?
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<Zagor> plmirc: no, i haven't done any changes. I need to speak to Linus first, to see what he had in the build he gave to you
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<plmirc> hm ok
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<Zagor> obviously, his code was not the same as he checked into cvs
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<plmirc> visually...
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<Bagder> Zagor: the copying file should be in FILES too, right?
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<Zagor> yes
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<Bagder> all green again
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<Zagor> goodie
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<edx> hi
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<Bagder> hi
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<Zagor> ironi: what's your real name (for credits)
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<Bagder> "Tome Cvitan" I guess
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<Zagor> ok
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<Bagder> he posted to the list once
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<Zagor> ah
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<Zagor> I'm listing three changes since 1.0:
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<Zagor> scrolling, playlist, shuffle
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<Zagor> have we done anything else? :-)
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<Bagder> not that is visible in the players
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<dwihno> Zagor: Any enlightenment regarding the LCD flickering?
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<Zagor> no
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<dwihno> Really strange.
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<Zagor> we'll be testing with some faster forms of scrolling later, that might solve it
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<Bagder> we do *two* updates when we scroll one line
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<Zagor> really?
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<Zagor> that's bad
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<Bagder> that's probably why
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<Bagder> I'll make a breakpoint and check wherefrom
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<Zagor> how do you get it to two? there's only one in scroll_thread()
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<Bagder> well, lcd_update() gets called twice ;-)
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<dwihno> :)
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<dwihno> Bagder - master of debugging
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<dwihno> We are all tiny grasshoppers in his presence
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<Bagder> first: tree.c:155 and then at tree.c:366
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<Zagor> right
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<Bagder> showdir() should probably not do lcd_update()
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<Zagor> how sily
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<Zagor> ll
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<dwihno> :D
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<dwihno> You guys are <----- this -----> great coders :)
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<dwihno> Just idling in this channel, I learn lots of stuff ):
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<dwihno> :)
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* Bagder blushes
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<Bagder> Zagor: you fix?
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<Zagor> yup
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<Bagder> fine
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* dwihno learned more about regexp today :)
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<Bagder> I think this is the flicker
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<Bagder> regexes rock
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* dwihno starts the drumroll - will the LCD get fix0red...
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<edx> lol
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<Zagor> try this build, guys: http://bjorn.haxx.se/rockbox/recorder/ajbrec.ajz
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* dwihno fetches
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<elinenbe|sleepin> morning all.
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--- elinenbe|sleepin is now known as elinebe|class
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<Bagder> morning elinenbe
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<Bagder> much better in the simulator at least
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<elinebe|class> what have you guys been working on last night?
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<Zagor> you sim guys, when will we get player icons in the simulators? :)
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<Bagder> can you fix us a good closeup picture showing them?
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<dwihno> IT'S FIXED!
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<dwihno> DAMN!
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<Zagor> nope :)
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<Bagder> and an api that uses them
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<dwihno> YOU RULES! :D
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<edx> hmm the icons.. hm
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<Bagder> *cool*
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<dwihno> the button management is smoother too, I think... Am I right?
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<Bagder> dwihno: so it looks fine now when scrolling?
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<alkorr> zagor, is it you in charge of FAT ?
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<Zagor> yes
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<dwihno> Bagder: not a single flicker! :D
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<dwihno> Bagder: it's ... perfect! :D
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<dwihno> MY PRECIOUS! :D
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<Zagor> dwihno: nice
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<alkorr> there is two way to handle FAT
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<alkorr> mirroring FAT or just select the active FAT
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<alkorr> you use which one ?
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* dwihno would like a sorting which places dirs first, and then the files ;)
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<elinebe|class> did you guys ever figure out the .ejz thing?
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<Bagder> elinebe|class: nope
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<alkorr> that sorting by type could be easily done if you prefix string with one byte
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<Bagder> we use qsort, we don't have to prefix, we have structs
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<Bagder> its just that the sort function ignores type atm
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<alkorr> you mean you use a comp function pointer given to qsort ?
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<Bagder> yeps
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<Bagder> and it compares names only
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<alkorr> oh yeah
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<alkorr> more dynamic
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<alkorr> you could give to user the choice for kind of sorting :)
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<Bagder> indeed
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<Zagor> alkorr: actually, I use neither method. I use the first fat, always :)
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<Zagor> i sense a bug here :)
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<alkorr> okay, i suggest to use the active FAT on the first FAT
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<alkorr> that way, Windows knows the other FAT are not mirrored
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<Zagor> yes. still it shouldn't be much of a problem until we start writing on the disk
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<alkorr> yes i know, it is only a suggestion if you don't like to be forced to mirror the fats
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<Zagor> yes, i think it's a good suggestion
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<alkorr> there is a way to be sure that Windows and jukebox are synched
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<alkorr> to use the active fat
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<alkorr> but to tell the truth, i seldom see one fat partition use this mode.
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<alkorr> never i should say :)
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<Zagor> this is a little black magic. the specs say one thing, but what does windows actually do?
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<alkorr> i just know this option exists
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<alkorr> the only difficult part is that : can windows change the active fat without our demand ?
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<alkorr> huh, i mean : can Windows selects another active FAT without our demand
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<dwihno> alkorr: Today is a good day - the LCD glitch is removed! :D
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<alkorr> glitch ?
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<dwihno> yeah
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<alkorr> what does that mean ?
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<dwihno> like visible vsync's on the recorder
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<dwihno> a double lcd_update()
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<dwihno> so the scrolling is now flawless (up&down)
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<Zagor> dwihno: how does the side scroll look?
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<dwihno> Lemme check
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<alkorr> strange, i remember this word but i cannot find its meaning in my dictionnary :/
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<alkorr> ok, understood
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<dwihno> Zagor: look<6F>n' good!
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<alkorr> it remembers me some old story when i had a 8086 ;)
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<Bagder> Zagor: about the 1.1 release, you could point out how cool our playlist support is already ;-)
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<dwihno> But the directory reading still appears a bit broken
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<Zagor> dwihno: that's really strange. I can't repeat that no matter what I do
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<dwihno> Hmm... Weird :/
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<dwihno> I'll let you have a look at my unit when I get to stockholm in july if the problem hasn't been solved by then ;)
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<alkorr> Zagor: my suggestion is just that at booting, if jukebox sees the FAT partition is mirroring, it sets first FAT active.
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* Bagder sense another devcon ;-)
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<dwihno> play should also allow entering a directory/play a file
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<dwihno> YAY! DEVCON! :D
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<Zagor> Bagder: yeah, i'm raving a bit about that :)
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<Zagor> alkorr: yes
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* Bagder is going home, see ya
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<Zagor> i'm thinking if we should wait for the recorder ata fix or release 1.1 without it
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<dwihno> the scroll is so darn cool!
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<dwihno> Kudos to the scrolly ppl!
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<alkorr> Zagor: no problem, just a recall for future
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<Zagor> dwihno: hehe, glad you like it
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<dwihno> :D
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<dwihno> I'm not mentioned in the credits :<3A><>(
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* dwihno plays some sokoban and gets happy again
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<alkorr> dwihno: watch the jukebox power ;)
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<dwihno> yay! :)
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<alkorr> huh can you really watch the power bar ?
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<Zagor> no
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<alkorr> ok a future TODO...
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<Zagor> ooh, matsl!
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<dwihno> matsl = ?
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<Zagor> a coworker of mine
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<dwihno> secret undercover archos employee!
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<dwihno> secret undercover archos employee!
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<dwihno> secret undercover archos employee!
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<dwihno> :)
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<edx> cool co-workers only talk via irc :)
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<matsl> Hi there! Is there a todo-list for the player somewhere?
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<Zagor> matsl: not really, we make it up as we go along :)
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<matsl> ok. Any suggestion for a small first hack?
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<alan> ???
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<dwihno> matsl: do you have an archos too? :)
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<matsl> jupp
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<alan> matsl: your domain ?
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<dwihno> Darn, 75% of contactor are cool ;D
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<dwihno> I guess Zagor has promoted it widely ;)
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<Zagor> dwihno: what's wrong with the others? ;)
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<dwihno> Zagor: they are secret undercover dudes and girls!
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<matsl> Domain???
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<alan> i mean your skills
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<alan> are you electroncians, programmer, etc.
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<matsl> Programmer
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<alan> you bought a jukebox because of Vj<56>rn ? :)
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<alan> s/V/B
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<Zagor> matsl: i can't think of any small isolated things. what we need right now (after 1.1 release) is improved UI.
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<matsl> OK
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<Zagor> we need to get back to viewing the id3 tag while playing, simpler volume adjustment, next/prev track etc.
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<alan> BTW, what is the status of Rockbox with Recorder ? oh yes cannot play with mpeg (missing MAS stuff)
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<dwihno> Patience, grasshopper ;)
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<Zagor> alan: yes. also it seems the rec6/10 ata problem is not completely solved yet. plmirc can't get his started.
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<Zagor> we haven't been able to reach linus since lunch, so we don't know what he did. his build is the only one that works for plmirc...
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<alan> just a question, the ATA addresses are all 3xx for Rec6/10 and 2xx for Rec20 ?
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<Zagor> no, just the CONTROL and STATUS
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<alan> okay, it is the problem
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<Zagor> ??
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<alan> all the address must be 3xx or 2xx. There must be no mixing of 3xx and 2xx addresses
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<Zagor> no, but that's ok. there is only 3 or 2.
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<matsl> OK. Bye folks. See you later.
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<Zagor> the rest of the registers use 1
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<Zagor> bye mats
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<alan> oh yes
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<alan> ALTSTAT you mean
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<alan> sorry :)
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<Zagor> yes
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<alan> yes you are totally right
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<jedix> hey guys
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<Zagor> hi
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<jedix> whats up?
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<Zagor> preparing for 1.1 relase. fixed some playlist issues
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<jedix> if nibbles isn't implemented I'm not going to be happy
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<Zagor> nibbles?
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<miah> i'd rather see features than games..
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<miah> games == waste of time
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<miah> listening to music while riding the T == good thing
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<Zagor> the current player is definitely T material, with the playlist support
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<dwihno> :D
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<dwihno> yeah, especially the recorder build ;D
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<Zagor> the recorder is getting games because we're all waiting for the MAS code to be ready
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<dwihno> A little poll... What kind of ear/headphones do you guys have?
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<Zagor> and, face it, the recorder is too fun to leave alone :)
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<Zagor> Sony EX70
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<miah> i have those sony wrap arounds
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<Zagor> big poll :)
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<dwihno> :)
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<dwihno> yeah
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<dwihno> :)
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<dwihno> I'm impressed, are you impressed?
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<dwihno> I'm Mike Levy, for amazing discoveries!
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<dwihno> *do the hand thing in the air*
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<dwihno> those earphones look really weird Zagor
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<miah> when rockbox has equilizer support (like the archos does, adjust bass, trebil, etc) then i'll be happy..
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<Zagor> they rule
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<Zagor> miah: it already has
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<miah> oh? its implemented now?
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<miah> i havnt looked since 1.0
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<dwihno> it's in the menu
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<Zagor> 1.0 had it. "sound" in the menu.
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<miah> nice
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<miah> ah, imust have missed it
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<dwihno> Zagor: how expensive were the phones?
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<miah> damn, boards of canada has a trippy site
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<alan> very very hot, i swear ;////
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<alan> cu
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<Zagor> dwihno: something like 500 SEK i think
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<dwihno> Whoa
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<dwihno> what makes them so special?
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<dwihno> I'm quite satisfied with my sony blahblah-something for 350 SEK
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<Zagor> the sound, simply... they have awesome sound
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<dwihno> Well, you must let me test them on DEVCON, mkay? :)
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<Zagor> yeah, so was I until I tried these
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<Zagor> hehe, sure
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<edx> what headfones are they
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<edx> (product name..)
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<Zagor> Sony EX70
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<edx> ah those.. for 40 Euros.. (or where thos diffrerent ones)
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<dwihno> Zagor: how is the bass?
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<Zagor> dwihno: the best. seriously. I keep it at ~10% setting on the recorder, and that's plenty
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<dwihno> :)
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* edx needs those headphones
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<dwihno> Darn... My laptop purchase will leave me broke for a decade :)
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<Zagor> hehe
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<dwihno> But at least, I can play q3a :)
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<dwihno> I was thinking about making a HD swap (laptop <--> archos) :)
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<Zagor> hehe
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<miah> heh
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<dwihno> then I realized I need to get a bigger disk
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<dwihno> 30 gig is not enough
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<miah> i'd much rather have 30gigs in my laptop
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<dwihno> yeah
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<dwihno> I'll get a 40 gig disk for the archos
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<dwihno> and keep all music in that
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<dwihno> then I'll keep all code and stuff in the laptop
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<miah> the only thing i hate about archos is FAT32
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<miah> and defraging over USB
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<Zagor> seriously, fat32 isn't such a bad choice for this kind of device.
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<miah> yea
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<miah> i know, but fragmentation sucks ass
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<Zagor> it's plain and simple, no fuss no special features
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<Zagor> fragmentation, with 3+ meg files?
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<miah> yep
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<miah> most of my mp3's are 6-10megs
|
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<Zagor> you must be doing a LOT of back-and-forth:ing...
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<miah> not really, but i havnt defrag'd in over a year, and i can tell you, songs skip now
|
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<dwihno> they do?
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<dwihno> what model do you have?
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<miah> 6000
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<dwihno> ah, mkay
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<Zagor> weird
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<miah> but after i defrag, its all happy
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<dwihno> What amount of buffer is it in the 6000?
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<miah> 2meg i think
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<Zagor> yep, same as the others
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<dwihno> defrag:ing once a year is something you do when you're at your friend's place (Zagor, hehe) with an USB2 interface ;)
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<miah> i encode all my mp3's with vbr, and alot of the songs i listen to are really long (lots of autechre, squarepusher, boards of canada, and other strangeness)
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<miah> so they're long
|
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<miah> and big files.. the songs i have that are 128k and small (punk stuff) playback pretty well, i dont have many problems with them
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<Zagor> miah: you could try running an analysis on it and see. i still thing it sounds odd to get fragmentation problems on this big files
|
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<miah> yea
|
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<miah> i make sure to run scandisk/norton disk doctor on it every now and then
|
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<Zagor> i never do that :)
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<edx> Zagor: Are those yours: MDR-EX70LP
|
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<Zagor> yup
|
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<edx> cool %0$
|
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<edx> 50
|
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<edx> .. hmm gotta have them.. i use the standrd archos headphones right now..
|
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<dwihno> they remind me of earplugs :)
|
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<dwihno> ouch
|
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<dwihno> you need to replace those headphones!
|
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<edx> with the volume control they really suck LOL
|
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<edx> i know
|
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<dwihno> My boss got my archos headphones ):
|
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<dwihno> :)
|
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<dwihno> He said "the sound quality is good"
|
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<dwihno> Then I just smiled
|
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<edx> guess i'll change the style of music i listen to if i change my headphones haha
|
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<Zagor> gotta go. see you tomorrow, guys!
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<dwihno> I should go too
|
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<dwihno> But I need to fix some code first
|
|||
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<dwihno> Otherwise I'll have to spend time tomorrow to get in synch with the coding
|
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|
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<edx> dwihno: the bass gets down to 6 HZ with those head phones :)
|
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<dwihno> whoaaaaaa :D~~
|
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* dwihno is looking forward to DEVCON, so I can test Zagor's headgear
|
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<edx> they really must rock
|
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<edx> i'll order them today i guess hehe
|
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<dwihno> you rich pants dude! :)
|
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<dwihno> How long is the delivery?
|
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<dwihno> I'd like to hear your opinion about the headphones too :)
|
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<edx> i dont knwo .. a few days (delviery)
|
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<dwihno> I want my laptop! :(
|
|||
|
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<dwihno> They haven't even confirmed the order yet :(
|
|||
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<edx> heh i want to buy head phones for at least half a year now..
|
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<edx> your laptop rocks ;)
|
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<edx> hehe
|
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<dwihno> It sure will rock - for at least three years
|
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<edx> hehe
|
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<dwihno> Stupid of me to think so, huh ;) ?
|
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<edx> nah.. i guess it will last at least two years in a really acceptable speed and it'll certainly still be "enough" after 4 years.. :)
|
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<dwihno> yeah :)
|
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<dwihno> Then I'll sell my soul once again and get a new one ;)
|
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<edx> hehe
|
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* dwihno looks in the crystal ball... I see... A P6 6,2GHz, 2 gigs of RAM and 2tb disk :)
|
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<edx> 4 gigs ram.. my guess :)
|
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<dwihno> hehe ;)
|
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<dwihno> 40 gig of RAM in the box, 40 gigs of RAM, if one would fail or starting to bail, then there'll be 39 gigs of RAM in the box
|
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<dwihno> ;)
|
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<edx> hhe
|
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<edx> NICK edxUSER OKE60 "" "irc.dal.net" :edx
|
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<edx> lol
|
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<edx> geht schon so ein bisschen LOL
|
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<dwihno> Was machst du?
|
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<edx> wtf..
|
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<edx> wrong channel window
|
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<edx> i am sorry
|
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<edx> im currently writing a proxy program and im debugging :)
|
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<dwihno> ah
|
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<dwihno> Aber was machst du?
|
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<dwihno> Hast du der Ober heute gesehen?
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<edx> lol..
|
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<Bagder2> moo
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<edx> "der Ober" whats that supposed to mean
|
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<edx> hi bagder
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<dwihno> howdy ho, mr bagder
|
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<dwihno> mr. bagdad :)
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<edx> Ober.. there is a word.. lkike "waiter
|
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<edx> "
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<edx> ?
|
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<dwihno> yup :)
|
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<edx> then it is:
|
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<edx> "Hast du den Ober heute gesehen"
|
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<edx> hehe
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<dwihno> Me + grammars = BAAAD combination
|
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<dwihno> One house, two house :)
|
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<edx> heh
|
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<edx> one sheep two sheep.. that works out ;)
|
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<dwihno> :)
|
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<dwihno> two sheeps! :;)
|
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<edx> two sheep.
|
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<Bagder2> too cheap
|
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<dwihno> haha
|
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<edx> (anyone *really* English here?)
|
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<edx> btw.. just found the Sony headphonse for 38Euros..
|
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<Bagder2> been a while since wavey was around
|
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<edx> about to buy them :)(
|
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* Bagder2 's mp3sync-script rocks
|
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<Bagder2> keeps my archos synced with my local mp3 collection
|
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<edx> hehe
|
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<dwihno> how does it work?
|
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<dwihno> edx: cool! buy me some and I'll wear a "Felix kick arse" sweater all summer, deal? :)
|
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<Bagder2> it checks if all my local mp3s are on the archos, and if I removed any local ones I should remove on the archos too
|
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<edx> hehehe..
|
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<dwihno> Bagder2: so the local copy is a master?
|
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<Bagder2> yes
|
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<Bagder2> exactly
|
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<dwihno> I'm --> <-- this close to finish off for the night
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* edx has just ordered his Sony MDR-EX70LP :)
|
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<dwihno> :D
|
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<dwihno> Now you're a copy of Zagor!
|
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<dwihno> * edx is now known as Zagor-edx
|
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<edx> LOL
|
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<dwihno> Darn
|
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<dwihno> I want one of those too
|
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<dwihno> When I get rich
|
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<dwihno> WHOA!
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<edx|Zagor> you get a laptop for 2500 Bucks... be quiet :)
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<dwihno> Welcome to the twilight zone!
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<edx> lol
|
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<dwihno> Welcome, to the edx zone! For the next 20 seconds, he will control everything you see and hear ;)
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<edx> *beeb*
|
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* Bagder2 felt controlled
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* edx controlled bagder... and dwihno
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<dwihno> Where am I? Who are you?
|
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<dwihno> And why am I wearing pantyhoses? :)
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<ironi> hehe
|
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<ironi> hi there
|
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<dwihno> hellojs ironi
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<dwihno> dokthar irouni
|
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<ironi> dwihno: one of those situations again, huh?
|
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<dwihno> <-- masters the persian language
|
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<dwihno> tavalod moborak!
|
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<ironi> but
|
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<ironi> t they'r ejust $49.95
|
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<ironi> not very expensive
|
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<ironi> i still think my headphones rulle the planet when it comes to price/performance/cool design
|
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<ironi> Koss PortaPro
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<dwihno> My Sennheiser HD570 pumps the jam quite nicely too ;D
|
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<ironi> but they are not really portable
|
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<ironi> and sennheiser cant deliver base
|
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<dwihno> these babies can :)
|
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<ironi> btw, if you want earplugs, you should consider the koss ksc-35
|
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<ironi> they're cheap but supposedly MEAN
|
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<ironi> uhm i mean like not earplugs but on the ear phones without bygel =)
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<ironi> dwihno: let me win you over: http://www.ljudman.se/portapro.htm
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<ironi> or perhaps http://www.ljudman.se/ksc35.htm
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<ironi> now i gotta rest, im kinda sick
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<g003y> dang my playlists never play. They load, but never really play.
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<g003y> awake that is
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<g003y> acck....
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<g003y> what did they do to the current tree?
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<dwihn0r> Hellojs Bagder
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<Bagder> morning
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<Bagder> bad apache
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* Bagder rebuilds
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* Bagder installs
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<Bagder> morning Linus
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<Linus> morning
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<Linus> Did you find out anything about the .ejz files yesterday?
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<Bagder> no
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<Bagder> but we fixed the flicker
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<Linus> oh. too many redraws?
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<Bagder> yeps
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<Bagder> one extra
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<Bagder> looks a lot better now
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<Linus> great
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<dwihno> :D
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<dwihno> Looks awesome!
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<Linus> How is sokoban?
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<dwihno> Kickass! :)
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<Linus> R00lz!
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<dwihno> The key code needs an overhaul though
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<dwihno> http://robotron.ton.tut.fi/love_on_video/koto_-_jabdah_(formel_eins).mpg
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<Linus> the key code? You mean the bouncing?
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<dwihno> bouncing?
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<Linus> or what did you mean?
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<adi|home> anyone played with the rockbox on the recorder yet?
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<dwihno> <-- did
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<dwihno> hmm
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* Bagder did too
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<dwihno> on the recorder, the button processing code is fishy, sometimes when I press once, it does the button action twice etc.
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<adi|home> did you find that the reboots seem to happen even with the dc in?
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<Linus> dwihno: that's contact bouncing
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<Bagder> reboots?
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<Bagder> I got no reboots
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<adi|home> the battery issue
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<adi|home> when i have the dc in, i still seem to get reboots
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<Linus> that sucks
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<Linus> adi|home: that _could_ be a grounding problem
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<adi|home> hmmm.. ok
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<adi|home> ideas on a solution?
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<g003y> hmph... all these recorder types.
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<g003y> :)
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<Linus> g003y: I take it you're a Player owner... :-)
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<g003y> yeah
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<Linus> me too. I have both :-)
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<g003y> though wish I had that nice bitmap screen :D
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<Bagder> g003y: you cvsup'ed recently?
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<g003y> a few hours ago
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<g003y> but my build is all jacked now
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<Bagder> oh
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<Linus> g003y: See it from the bright side, you can at least play music on your box.
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<Bagder> I had a go a the include issue yday
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<g003y> haheheehhe... just wish I could get the playlist to actually work
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<g003y> I noticed that
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<Bagder> we should dig into that problem of yours
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<Bagder> Bj<42>rn played an all-disk playlist yesterday on his player fine
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<g003y> I see the includes but now time.h begs for machine/somthing.h
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<Bagder> uh
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<g003y> bagder - I think I'm still doing something wrong with the playlists
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<Bagder> how did you make your playlist?
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<g003y> tried a number of ways so far.
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<g003y> 1) Vi
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<g003y> 2) Winamp
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<g003y> 3) Sonqiue
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<g003y> 4) a script on the file system
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<Bagder> because staring only yesterday we support windows drive names and backslashes
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<Bagder> i also believe that the file names are case sensitive
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<g003y> well I tried the 17th compile from work today, but no luck
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<Bagder> ok
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<g003y> that was with a drag n drop from the drive to winamp
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<g003y> I know PsycoXul was having probs before, but he hasn't been back to confirm if it started working for him.
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<Bagder> well, I guess Zagor must show you a version working for him and then you can try that
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<Bagder> I have no player, I can't play at all ;-)
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<dwihno> Linus: contact bouncing?
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<g003y> yeah a working example would be nice.
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<Bagder> dwihno: yes, when one keypress kind of "jumps" on the contact so that it gets registered as two or more
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<g003y> thats been resolved?
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<dwihno> Bagder: I never have that problem with the archos firmware :)
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<Bagder> dwihno: no, because they "debounce"
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<adi|home> did i miss any of the core apis getting changed?
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<g003y> archos has all the docs the bastards :D
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<adi|home> namely, the rectangle functions?
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<Bagder> cheaters ;-)
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<Bagder> adi|home: they changed?
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<adi|home> i don't know
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<Bagder> hm
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<adi|home> suddenly boxes isn't working
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<Bagder> I might be responsible
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<adi|home> what was 'screensaver'
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<adi|home> it works.. but not properly
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<adi|home> what didyou change?
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<Bagder> did it use the XOR feature?
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<adi|home> nope
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<Bagder> ok, then I don't think its me ;-)
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<Bagder> so what doesn't work?
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<adi|home> im trying to figure out what went wrong
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<adi|home> but the'shrinking' boxes aren't displaying
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<Bagder> it works in my simulator right now
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<adi|home> really?
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<Bagder> yeps
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<adi|home> the boxes grow and shrink?
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<Bagder> yeps
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<adi|home> when did you last do a cvs update?
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<Bagder> just now
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<adi|home> ill update again
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<adi|home> i noticed it because the firmware on the website doesn't do it properly
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<Bagder> the daily one?
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<adi|home> yup
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<adi|home> btw.. how do i remove a file from cvs?
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<Bagder> odd
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<adi|home> screensaver.[ch] don't need to be there anymore
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<Bagder> rm file; cvs rm file
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<Bagder> cvs ci file
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<g003y> ahhh... current compiles for me again after a cvs update
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<Bagder> goodie
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<adi|home> god i love the world cup
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<g003y> oh crap.... I think I spoke too soon on current. crap :/
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<Zagor> hey there
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<Bagder> g003y: what fails then?
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<Bagder> hey Zagor, g003y has problems with playlists
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<g003y> well I do a clean get.
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* dwihno has no problems with rockbox
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<g003y> and it says it can't find machine/types.h
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<dwihno> other than the fishy filename thing
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<g003y> I used to do the -I/usr/include hack on the makefile
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<Bagder> uh, remove that machine/types thing
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<g003y> but now you have all the includy stuff going on
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<Bagder> I'll do it now
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<g003y> it's in time.h
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<g003y> which was added recently
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<Bagder> I know, gone now ;-)
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<g003y> cool
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<g003y> why did you add it ?
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<g003y> can recorder tell time?
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<g003y> :D
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<Zagor> yes it can
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<Bagder> we use that include file, that's why I added it
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<g003y> but the player can't right?
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<Zagor> but we haven't implemented it yet
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<Zagor> right
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<g003y> damn.... another reason to buy the recorder
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<Bagder> I made a find and grepped out all libc headers we used and made sure I provided all them
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<adi|home> bagder
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<adi|home> there is NO way you have a upto date cvs
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<adi|home> boxes isn't working proper
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<adi|home> im tellign you
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<g003y> hahahahahahahahaha
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* adi|home is _not_ insane
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<Bagder> I can't but to cvs up
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<g003y> zagor: can you provide me with a smallish example working m3u you've been using?
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<Zagor> adi|home: boxes work for me in sim at least
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<g003y> I would like to verify if I'm an idiot
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<adi|home> Zagor.. you have a recorder?
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<Zagor> yes
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<adi|home> test the latest daily build
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<adi|home> check the boxes
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<Zagor> g003y: F:\Film/Soundtrack - Cast Away (End Credits) - Silvestri.mp3
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<Zagor> Always (Song Duet).mp3
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<Zagor> Reunion.mp3
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<adi|home> it _doesnt'_ work
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<Zagor> oops, stripped leding slashes :)
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<Zagor> adi|home: ok, will test
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<adi|home> thank you :)
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<Zagor> g003y: what is the problem you get?
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* adi|home places the pistol to his tempel
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<adi|home> go ahead.. tell me im crazy...
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<adi|home> i dare you
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<g003y> well playlist appears to load, but then just sits at the <no artist> <no title>
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* adi|home whinces.... blinks.. turns the gun around
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<adi|home> barrel end has the bullets
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<Zagor> adi|home: i fixed dynamic IRC page yesterday, so you only have to add the log file now, not update the page
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* adi|home make a mental note
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<adi|home> sweet
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<adi|home> i have to update the log from this weekend
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<Bagder> the playlist playing doesn't update the screen to anything, does it?
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<Bagder> g003y: and you name your file whatever.m3u ?
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<g003y> blah.m3u
|
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<Zagor> Bagder: no it doesn't
|
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<Bagder> g003y: it saying <no artist> indicates that it doesn't think it is a playlist
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<g003y> hmmm
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<g003y> ok
|
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<g003y> well I must've f'd up somehow then
|
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<Zagor> g003y: is it lowercase?
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<g003y> the whole filename?
|
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<Linus> Zagor: I forgot your NewPlayer this morning
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<Bagder> the extension
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<g003y> zagor: the whole filename is lowercase
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<Zagor> Linus: bah! no chicken for you!!! :)
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<Zagor> g003y: strange
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<Linus> Zagor: Pleeeeze. Have some chicken with me....!
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<g003y> zagor: I know... thats why I think it's user error still
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