2002-08-21 10:36:05 +00:00
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Q1: Are my batteries charged all the time when connected to my Player/Recorder?
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A1: Player: the charging is all done by hardware and the exact
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functionality is hard to determine. It is however not recommended to keep
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the charger connected for more than 10-15 hours if you're not using the
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unit.
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Recorder: no. The charging algorithm is carefully crafted in to not wear
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out the batteries any more than necessary. If you're using your unit
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connected to the charger most of the time, use the 'deep discharge' option
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to save your batteries somewhat.
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Q2: Will keeping my charger connected a long time damage my batteries? Can I
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leave it over night?
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A2: The charger logic lets the batteries charge until they are full. After
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that, the charger is disabled, but the device will stay powered on and
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continue to consume some power from the batteries (the hardware does
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not allow running from the charger without charging batteries, or
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powering off with the charger connected). After some time, it will
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start charging the batteries again to keep them full. This will
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wear the batteries a little, but overnight charging is what most
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people do.
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As the Battery FAQ at http://www.greenbatteries.com/ puts it:
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"A NiMH battery can be charged and discharged hundreds of times,
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but whether that means 200 times or 800 times has a lot to do
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with how (you use it)".
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Q3: Does Rockbox charge the batteries more/less/worse/better than the Archos
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firmware?
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A3: Player: Rockbox doesn't affect the charging on Players, it is all done
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by hardware logic out of software control.
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Recorder: The current release of 1.2 is much worse than the Archos
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charger, it tends to stop charging much too early and leave the batteries
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half empty.
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The current development code (CVS daily builds as of 20.8.2002) is much
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better than the 1.2 release, but still not perfect. Linus recently
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measured 6 hours continuous playtime after a rockbox charge, and much
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over 7 hours after an Archos charge. We are working on fine-tuning
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the charger logic to get the most out of the batteries, but the
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emphasis is on not overcharging them, since that would damage the
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batteries. Better be safe than sorry.
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Q4: What kind of batteries are there in my factory default Player/Recorder?
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2002-09-04 02:05:53 +00:00
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A4: Both ship with 1500 mAh NiMH (Nickel Metal Hydride) batteries.
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2002-08-21 10:36:05 +00:00
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Q5: Is it hard to change the batteries? Does it void my warranty?
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2002-09-06 05:42:23 +00:00
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A5: It is not very hard - the Archos manual and the FAQ on their web site
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describe how to do it. Their technical support confirmed that
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replacing the batteries with NiMH cells (of different capacities)
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will not void the warranty. Just don't remove the screws.
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Some units have been shipped with two sets of batteries, my Recorder 20
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only had one set. Someone actually had Archos send him new batteries
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free of charge after they had weared out, under the warranty.
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2002-08-21 10:36:05 +00:00
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Q6: How much do replacement batteries cost? Where can I buy them?
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A6: http://www.greenbatteries.com sells 1800 mAh NiMH cells at $3.25USD each,
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and I bought 4 of the same GP batteries for 20 euros in an home
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electronics & household appliance store in Finland. NiMH batteries are
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sold in almost all shops that sell consumer electronics, and in many
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2002-08-21 12:43:57 +00:00
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online shops. Browse around. There's a pretty good comparison between
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different battery makes and models at the digital imaging resource site:
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http://www.imaging-resource.com/ACCS/BATTS/BATTS.HTM
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2002-08-21 10:36:05 +00:00
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Q7: What kind of run-time can I expect on a set of fully-charged batteries
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when running Rockbox?
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A7: For the stock 1500 mAh cells, from 6 hours to 8 hours, depending on
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which charger was used (see Q3). It depends a lot on the condition of
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the batteries. We are looking into implementing more battery-saving
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techniques in rockbox to make it rock longer.
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2002-08-29 06:34:03 +00:00
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Q8: Can I use different batteries in my Archos? How much playtime would
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I gain by using 1800 mAh batteries instead of the 1500 mAh ones?
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2002-08-21 10:36:05 +00:00
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A8: Only use NiMH-type rechargeable batteries. It is considered to be safe
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to use NiMH batteries of different capacities though, a lot of people
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have purchaced 1700 or 1800 mAh batteries to replace the stock 1500 mAh
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2002-08-29 06:34:03 +00:00
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cells and have the device run a bit longer. 2000 mAh batteries are
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just appearing in shops are equally good to use.
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In theory, running time = capacity of batteries / current drawn by device,
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so running time should increase linearly by the capacity, and 2000 mAh
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over 1500 mAh should give 33% longer running time. In practice, the
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mAh ratings are more or less tuned up by the marketing department
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(think of watts on the back of "hi-fi" speakers and amplifiers) and
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what you actually get out of the cells is something else than what is
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printed on them. Check the excellent imaging-resource link above for
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details!
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2002-08-21 10:36:05 +00:00
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Q9: Can I use non-chargeable batteries in my Archos?
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A9: This is not recommended. The unit has been designed to operate with
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four 1.2V batteries producing about 4.8V at most, and using 1.5V
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alkaline/zinc carbon batteries will produce around 6.0V, which will
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heat up the unit a lot more and might even damage it. The Archos
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manual explicitly tells you not to do so.
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2002-08-27 09:55:57 +00:00
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Also, if you connect the charger, it may even destroy both the batteries
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and the unit.
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2002-08-21 10:36:05 +00:00
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Q10: Can I use a different charger?
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2002-08-29 06:34:03 +00:00
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A10: The short answer is: Using a different charger will void your warranty
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and can be dangerous to your unit, so we can not recommend it.
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On the other hand, people have successfully used different chargers
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with similar specifications as the stock charger. The charger must
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have the same kind of connector with same polarity (center positive/+).
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2002-08-21 10:36:05 +00:00
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The charger should supply at least 7-8 volts, and if it provides
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2002-12-10 23:14:04 +00:00
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more than 10V, it probably should be regulated to 10V (do not
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2002-08-21 10:36:05 +00:00
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directly plug it in your 12V car battery or it's charger!).
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2002-08-21 20:54:20 +00:00
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The universal travel charger sold by Archos is specified at
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12V, 1.2A so that's probably the maximum rating you should use.
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2002-08-29 06:34:03 +00:00
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A good circuit for powering from a car battery or other source
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2002-12-10 23:14:04 +00:00
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with a higher voltage would be a 600 mA fuse and a 10V regulator like
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a 7810 of your favourite manufacturer in series.
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2002-08-21 10:36:05 +00:00
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2002-08-29 06:34:03 +00:00
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Inside the Jukebox there is a regulator which limits the charging
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2002-12-10 23:14:04 +00:00
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current applied to the batteries. The higher the input voltage, the hotter
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this IC gets. Don't use an input voltage above 12V.
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Using lower charging voltage < 10V will slow down the charging. But the
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rockbox charging algorithm should work then, too.
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These are the output voltages of an original archos power supply:
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- connected to AJB Recorder, not charging: 13,7 Volt
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- connected to AJB Recorder, charging: going down to 10,4 Volt
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Here is how changing the input voltage changes the charging current:
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voltage charging current (limited only by the AJB)
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7,0V 10 mA
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7,5V 30 mA
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8,0V 50 mA
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8,5V 70 mA
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9,0V 140 mA
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9,5V 250 mA
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10,0V 330 mA
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10,5V 350 mA
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11,0V 350 mA
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11,5V 350 mA
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12,0V 350 mA
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To summarize:
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- do not use an input voltage > 12V
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- optimal input voltage is 10V (regulated)
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- use a fuse of ~600mA
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- using a different charger voids your warrenty
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2002-08-21 10:36:05 +00:00
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Many people are happy using an external quick charger which
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2002-08-29 06:34:03 +00:00
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is specified to work with NiMH batteries. This is completely safe
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and will not void your warranty.
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2002-08-21 10:36:05 +00:00
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Q11: Can I buy a replacement charger exactly as the one Archos shipped?
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A11: The FAQ on the Archos web site and the top of the charger both read:
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Output: 9VDC 600mA
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Center positive (+) polarity
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2002-08-21 20:54:20 +00:00
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The universal travel charger sold separately on the Archos web site
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is specified for 12VDC, 1200mA output.
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2002-08-21 10:36:05 +00:00
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Chargers with similar (or user-adjustable) properties are available
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at shops selling consumer electronics.
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Q12: I often need to stop my player for about 15 minutes or so, and when I do
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it runs off it's batteries. I was wondering, which is best: shutting the
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player down completely and rebooting it when I want to listen again, or
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leaving the unit on? Which way does it draw more power?
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A12: In our testing we found the following results:
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HDD off, LED off, idle 94 mA
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HDD off, LED off, play 97 mA
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HDD off, LED on, idle 129 mA
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HDD off, LED on, play 131 mA
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HDD on, LED on, play 230 mA
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HD on, reading, LED off ~ 600 mA
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HD spin up before read max 800 mA
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2002-08-21 12:27:02 +00:00
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So leaving the unit on and paused consumes ~100mA, and thus much less
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than needing to reboot the unit. Your mileage may vary.
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2002-08-27 11:59:01 +00:00
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Q13: When I plug in the charger when the Recorder is turned off, it turns
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itself on and starts charging in the Archos software? What's up?
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2002-08-21 12:27:02 +00:00
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A13: There is a switch in the DC IN jack of the Jukebox - when a charger (or
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whatever) is plugged in, the unit is powered on, even if the charger
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is not plugged in a mains outlet.
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If the charger is providing power at this point, the Archos firmware
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located on the FLASH ROM does not load a new firmware version (like
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Rockbox) from the disk, but goes into charging mode instead. You can
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use this feature to get to the Archos charger if you want to.
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2002-08-27 11:59:01 +00:00
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Q14: When I plug the charger in my Recorder, it doesn't immediately start
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charging the batteries!
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A14: When Rockbox is running on the Recorder (the device has been booted
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2002-08-21 12:27:02 +00:00
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without the charger) it's power management code runs once per minute
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(thus the charge level and charging status is only updated every minute).
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If the battery is not full, it will start charging. If the 'deep
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discharge' mode is enabled in the settings menu, it will start charging
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only when the battery is almost empty.
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2002-08-29 06:34:03 +00:00
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Q15: What about the memory effect? Should I be worried about it or not?
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A15: That depends on who you ask. ;-) NiMH sellers say NiMHs are better and
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do not have a memory effect, but the usual opinion seems to be that
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they do, although it is very small.
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However, if you use your AJB connected to the charger all the time,
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we recommend you to use the deep discharge option.
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