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Source | _// _ \_/ ___\| |/ /| __ \ / _ \ \/ /
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Jukebox | | ( <_> ) \___| < | \_\ ( <_> > < <
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$Id$
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Copyright (C) 2002 by Robert E. Hak
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Rockbox FAQ
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2002-03-28 13:25:25 +00:00
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2002-05-06 06:32:58 +00:00
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Q1. What is a FAQ?
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A1. A rare small animal of the species 'Textius Electronicus'. It is known for
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its helpful attitude and vicious misspellings.
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Q2. What is Rockbox? What is it's purpose?
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A2. The purpose of this project is to write an Open Source replacement
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firmware for the Archos Jukebox 6000, Studio 20 and Recorder MP3 players.
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Q3. I want to write code for my Archos, how do I proceed?
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A3. First make sure to read the file CONTRIBUTING in the firmware directory
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on Sourceforge. See http://bjorn.haxx.se/rockbox/firmware/CONTRIBUTING
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if you do not want to have to wade through the CVS directories.
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Q4: Whats CVS?
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A4: Concurrent Versions System (http://www.cvshome.org). We have a small
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help page about how to use this to get, update and commit files on the web
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at http://bjorn.haxx.se/rockbox/cvs.html
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Q5. What exactly is the CONTRIBUTING file?
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A5. Just like the name implies, it lists conventions that the project follows,
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and in turn asks you to follow, for the formating of source code in
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general.
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Q6. Okay, so I read CONTRIBUTING and although I don't agree with all your
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conventions, I am going to be sensible and follow them anyway. Now what?
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A6. Start by reading up on the information about the jukeboxes on our web page.
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Then go into CVS and look at the code we've written. Then take what you
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need and start writing.
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Q7. Okay, so how do I submit a patch?
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A7. Run: "diff -u oldfile newfile > patchfile" against the file(s) you have
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changed. Then mail the output to any member of the development team and
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we will take it under consideration. (Please remember that all
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submissions are not automatically accepted, this is nothing personal.)
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2002-06-26 08:57:11 +00:00
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Of if you would like to run the diff against the current cvs code:
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cvs diff -ub [file(s)]
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Q8. I want to join the development team, but don't have a SourceForge account,
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what should I do?
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A8. Head on over to http://sourceforge.net/account/register.php and create an
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account for yourself.
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Q9. Do you have a mailing list?
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A9. Sure do! The list is rockbox@cool.haxx.se. To subscribe, you need to
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send a message to majordomo@cool.haxx.se with the words "subscribe rockbox"
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in the body.
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Q10. Great you have a mailing list! Is there anyway for me to catch up on
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past posts?
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A10. Check out the archives at: http://bjorn.haxx.se/rockbox/mail.cgi
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Q11. How can I meet the developers working on the project?
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A11. One way is by visiting us on IRC. Head on over to the server
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irc.openprojects.net, and then join "#rockbox". There is usually at
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least one person there. If you don't see any activity, feel free to post
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questions anyway, serveral of us log the channel and will get you answers
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when we unidle.
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Q12: Wow, you guys talk on IRC alot? I wish I had been around for those
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conversations to see what happened.
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A12: We are glad you mentioned that! http://bjorn.haxx.se/rockbox/irc happens
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to have a list of various logs we have recorded of events in the channel.
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Feel free to read up, and ask questions on what you find.
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Q13. What is this "SourceForge" you keep mentioning?
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A13. http://www.sourceforge.net
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Q14. Can the changes or the software that Rockbox suggests or offers
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possibly damage my Archos Player?
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A14. All firmware mods that are presented are still highly experimental.
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Try them at your own risk. We offer no guarantee that this software, or
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the hardware modifications we show, will not damage your player or void
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your warranty. That said, we have not been able to damage any of our
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units by modifying only the firmware. You can accidentally password
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protect your harddisk, but there are ways around that. (See below.)
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Q15. I want to see what the inside of my player looks like, but I would really
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like to avoid voiding my warranty. Is there anything you can suggest?
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A15. We have a collection of photos of both the player and recorder. Look at
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http://bjorn.haxx.se/rockbox/internals/
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Q16. What exactly are you trying to achieve with this line of development?
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(A.K.A. whats your purpose for being here?)
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A16. Firstly, we wouldn't start something like this if we didn't simply enjoy
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it profusely. This is great fun!
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Secondly, we feel the firmware is lacking some features and contain a
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number of annoying bugs that we want to fix.
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Some ideas would include (in no particular order):
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- No pause between songs
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- Mid-song resume
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- Mid-playlist resume
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- No-scan playlists
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- Unlimited playlist size
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- Autobuild playlists (ie: "all songs in this directory tree")
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- Auto-continue play in the next directory
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- Current folder and all sub-folder random play
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- Full disk random play
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- REAL random
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- Multi song queue
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- Faster scroll speed
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- More cool features with the wire remote control (including
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controlling your Archos from your car radio (req hw mod))
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- Support playing of other files types (ie: Ogg Vorbis support)
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- Support for megabass switch (req hw mod)
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- Player control via USB
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- Memory expansion?
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Note: Just because something is on this list, does not mean that it is
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technically feasible. (But hey we can dream) And something not
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being on the list does not mean it isn't a neat idea. Bring it to
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the list.
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2002-06-11 06:24:11 +00:00
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Q17. I don't see you mentioning other file types on your list of ideas. What
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about supporting those?
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A17. Pessimist's Answer: At the current time we belive this is not very likely
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The Micronas chip (MAS3507) decoder in the archos does not natively
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support decoding and there is very little program space in the player to
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implement it ourselves. The alternative would be to write a software
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decoder as part of the RockBox firmware. However, as much as we love
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our players, the computing power of the Archos (SH1 microcontroller) is
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not fully sufficent for this need.
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Optimist's Answer: We can play any format if only we can write code for
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the DSP to decode it. The MAS 3507 (and 3587) are generic DSPs that
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simply have MP3 codecs in ROM. We can download new codecs in them and
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we will be the first to celebrate if we can get OGG or FLAC or anything
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into these DSPs. Unfortunately, we have no docs or tools for writing new
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MAS DSP code and Intermetall is very secretive about it. If anyone can
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help, please get in touch!
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2002-05-08 23:31:12 +00:00
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2002-06-12 07:08:21 +00:00
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Q18. What about supporting playing of WMA files?
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2002-06-11 18:23:03 +00:00
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A18. Dear Mr. Gates, you have two options. Re-read question #17, or go buy
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your own project.
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2002-05-08 23:34:55 +00:00
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2002-06-04 01:57:41 +00:00
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Q19. When do you think there will be a version available for my Archos?
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2002-06-19 20:58:27 +00:00
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A19. We recently released version 1.1, so head on over to
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http://bjorn.haxx.se/rockbox/download.html and pull it down. This
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versions major changes/improvements include:
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- Recorder support
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- Playlist support (max 10000 files, approx 1000 files/sec load time)
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- Scrolling
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Make sure to read the release notes.
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(http://bjorn.haxx.se/rockbox/download/rockbox-1.1-notes.txt).
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Q20. What do you plan to add to coming versions?
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A20. We have a rough idea of which features we plan/expect/hope to be included
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in which versions. Once again, remember that none of this is written in
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stone (noticing a pattern yet?)
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Version 1.2
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UI improvements
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Version 1.3
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Resume, persistent settings, autobuild playlists, UI improvements
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Q21. I tried one of your firmware files and now I can't access my harddisk!
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When I turn on my jukebox, it says:
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Part. Error
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Pls Chck HD
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A21. Your harddisk has been password protected. We're not 100% sure why it
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happens, but you can unlock it yourself. Look at:
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http://rockbox.sourceforge.net/rockbox/lock.html
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2002-06-04 01:57:41 +00:00
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Q22: This FAQ doesn't answer the question I have. What should I do?
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A22: You have a couple options here. You could forget the question, find an
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easier question, or accept '42' as the answer no matter what. We don't
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really recommend any of these (though I do opt for '42' often myself).
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What we do recommend is stopping by IRC, reading
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http://bjorn.haxx.se/rockbox to see if the question was answered else
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where and just not included here, or ultimatly dropping an email to the
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mailing list (rockbox@cool.haxx.se) or the FAQ maintainer listed on the
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project homepage.
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2002-06-04 01:57:41 +00:00
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Q23: Are there other ways to contact the developers?
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A23: Yes.
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2002-06-04 01:57:41 +00:00
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Q24: Are you going to tell us what they are?
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A24: No. Post to the mailing list and we will get back to you.
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2002-06-04 01:57:41 +00:00
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Q25: But I _really_ want to talk with you in person.
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A25: I'm sorry. My girlfriend/boyfriend/pet says I'm not allowed to, and the
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doctors here won't let me have pens or pencils. They say its some rule
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about us not having sharp objects. I'm sorry. Now please stop calling me
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here.
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2002-06-04 01:57:41 +00:00
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Q26: Will you ever port Quake II to the Archos?
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A26: If you ask that again, I'm sending your address and phone number to the
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guy that mailed us with question #23.
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2002-06-04 01:57:41 +00:00
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Q27: Umm, was that sarcasm?
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A27: That's it, I'm mailing him now.
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2002-06-12 07:50:40 +00:00
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Q28: Is this legal? I mean, I'd just hate to see something like that
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challenged under the DMCA in all its ridiculousness. Any thoughts or
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ideas?
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A28: We believe we are in the green on this. We are not violating anyone's
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copyright and we are not circumventing any copy protection scheme.
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This has been a big point for the project since its inception. Some
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people wanted us to distribute patched versions of the original firmware,
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but seeing as that _would_ have violated Archos' copyright, we didn't
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follow that course of action.
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Q29: On the website [and various information postings] you state
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"Every tiny bit was reverse engineered, disassembled and then
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re-written from scratch".
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If it was rewritten from scratch then why was it first reverse-engineered
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and disassembled? Instead this sounds more like someone disassembled it
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then used the understanding that they gained to create a new version,
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which is not quite the same as "from scratch".
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A29: Don't confuse the terms. Reverse engineering means examining a product
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to find out how it works. Disassembling the firmware is merely one tool
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used in that examination. Oscilloscopes and logic analyzers are other
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tools we have used. We have written every single byte of the Rockbox
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firmware. But we could not have written the software without first
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researching how the hardware was put together, i.e. reverse engineer it.
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All of this is completely legal. If you define "from scratch" as writing
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software without first researching the surrounding interfaces, then no
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software has ever been written from scratch.
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2002-06-21 05:28:41 +00:00
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Q30: Wait a minute here. You have released version 1.0, but not a single one
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of the ideas you have spoken about is actually implimented! Calling this
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version 1.0 is really misleading. Whats the story?!
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A30: In simple terms, the first release is called 1.0 because it has a basic
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working feature set that works and has no known bugs. That is what 1.0
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means. It is true that Rockbox 1.0 lacks most of the feature set that
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every sane user wants. However, we never said it was more
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feature-complete or better in any way then the original firmware at this
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early point. This first release was done as a proof of concept that our
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ideas are moving in the right direction. We also hope that it helps
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bring the project some attention, and some additional developers.
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Adding the missing features is just a matter of time (and that time goes
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faster if you, yes you, help too).
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Q31: I've heard talk of a 'Rolo'. What is that? (Or 'All you ever wanted
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to know about Rockbox boot loaders')
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A31: The developers have discussed the possibility of a boot loader. (Mainly
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because having one sounds cool, and isn't Rolo just a great name?)
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The idea would be that a user could use the load to choose between
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different verions of Rockbox or the Archo firmware itself. We do not
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have an expected date on this. (As a matter of fact, developement on it
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has not even started yet).
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2002-07-08 18:22:51 +00:00
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Q32: I was thinking about making the USB a bit more usable. What are the
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chances of using the USB port to [play games / share files / list
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the device as something other then a hard drive / sell my soul to you
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for a nickel]. What do you think?
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A32: You really don't want to know what I think, it involves road flares,
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microwave ovens and shaved cats. Enough said. But regarding the USB
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portion of your question, this is not feasible. First, any ideas
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regarding special communications over the USB port will not work because
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we have no control over the USB port itself. We are capable of
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dectecting if it is in use (so we know which mode to switch to) but that
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is it. Second, if you would like to have your Archos as a harddrive for
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another device, know that this will not work either. The Archos unit is
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a slave. Most other USB devices are slaves as well. So without some
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master involved there can be no communication. Sorry. Now about your
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soul. Would you settle for 3 cents and a small wad of belly button lint?
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