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**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Jun 13 04:36:02 2002
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<stile> after much thought and decision making.. ive decided.. ppl in general.. suck :)
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<Bagder> you didn't already know? ;-)
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<stile> i just dind't know they sucked so bad
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<Bagder> "just one more time, for the sake of sanity... tell me why, explain the gravity"
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* Bagder sings along
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* g003y wonders what song bagder is singing, and how is co-worker's feel about his voice
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<Bagder> I play so loud in my headphones I can't hear them anyway ;-)
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<g003y> hahahahaha
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<Bagder> and the song is an Assemblage 23 one
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* Bagder doesn't expect anyone to know it
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<g003y> 4 on the floor techno?
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<Bagder> I wouldn't call it techno, but rather dark and hard synth/industrial
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<g003y> ahhh... thats different. I'm talking the shit you hear in clubs that sounds like one big freaking record the dj never changes :D
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<Bagder> ah, nah, I'm not into that kind
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<g003y> thats good :D
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<g003y> is there a key combo with the current firmware build that lets you get back to the currently playing song display?
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<Bagder> I dunno
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<Bagder> heck, I hardly know how to use it at all ;-)
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<g003y> hmmm.. I don't see one in the code so I'll assume no.
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<g003y> :D
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<Bagder> I want my rockbox
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<dwihno> :D
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<dwihno> I want rockbox for recorder! :D
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<dwihno> But I'm patient
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<dwihno> So I'll just wait
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<dwihno> And contribute to the project in every way I may :)
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<Bagder> the day there's sound from the MAS3587, I'll run Rockbox non-stop
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<dwihno> MAS3587? The chip in R20?
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<Bagder> yeah
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<dwihno> mkay
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<g003y> ahhh... I'm running my own personal build of rockbox right now :D
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<Bagder> that's the spirit!
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<dwihno> Yeah, playlist parsing, LCD flickering and a couple of other things and I'll use it too
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<Bagder> it ain't cool if you didn't build it yourself ;-)
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<g003y> I saw some cvs comments about playlist parsing support
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<g003y> so I suspect that is nearing completion
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<g003y> or useable
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<Bagder> the code is already there actually
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<g003y> ahh good deal
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<Bagder> just not shuffle
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<g003y> fair enough
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<Bagder> it "should" work now
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<g003y> I haven't loaded any yet
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<dwihno> Bagder: any limitations? I mean, does it parse m3u's with #-style comments?
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<g003y> been awhile since I've used playlists to be honest
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<Bagder> me neither, I have a recorder ;-)
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<Bagder> dwihno: no comments, no
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<Bagder> do regular m3us have them?
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<g003y> those are bastard m3us that nullsoft made the switch too.
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<Bagder> well, ignoring lines like that would be dead simple to add
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<dwihno> Bagder: Winamp store song information (length) every other line...
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<Bagder> oh
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<g003y> yeah
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<g003y> sometimes I really hate the way they do things.
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<dwihno> Is there a battery meter available yet? :)
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<g003y> nope :(
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<dwihno> The scroller is way cool btw... Should be seamless though
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<Bagder> that's a whole can of worms as they say
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<g003y> yeah I got the scroller api displaying the filename across the screen
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<g003y> at least until you dump out of that mode back to the browse mode :D
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<dwihno> :-)
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<Bagder> cool
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<g003y> I almost think ppl should be able to select/build in code for parsing their style mp3 naming, but that might be a beast nobody wants to cut loose
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<Bagder> I'm gonna take a stab at that soonish
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<Bagder> shortening the names on screen
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<dwihno> hmm
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<g003y> hmmm
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<g003y> we should share notes :D
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<Bagder> yeah
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<dwihno> I always name mine XX. YYYYYYYYY (ZZZZ).mp3
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<dwihno> X = track number
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<dwihno> Y = file name
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<dwihno> Z = remix notes
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<dwihno> Artist - Album (Year)
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<dwihno> That's how I name the dirs
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<g003y> I think that is fairly common
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<g003y> it could be just a small handful defintions of formats that ppl could choose from with a sensible default just in case.
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<dwihno> Does the current rockbox have any way of showing song length information?
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<dwihno> Compared to the archos firmware, that is
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<Bagder> it estimates the length for non VBRs
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<Bagder> that's all so far
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<g003y> estimates based on header info correct?
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<Bagder> yeps
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<g003y> but isn't that pretty much exact?
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<Bagder> it is
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<Bagder> should be at least
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<g003y> ahhh...
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<g003y> gotcha
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<Bagder> it uses integer math too which might make it loose some precision
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<Bagder> I haven't checked that closely
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<g003y> you're probably right
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<g003y> whats the problem with time display on vbrs?
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<Bagder> we need to read the whole file to get the length
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<Bagder> and it kind of sucks
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<dwihno> Is there a quick way to do VBR estimation?
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<dwihno> erhm
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<g003y> I'd say that sucks
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<dwihno> that is sucky
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<g003y> I did not realize vbr sucked that way
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<dwihno> As long as CBR's are OK ;)
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<g003y> ha....
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<g003y> I'm torn between CBR and VBRs with r3mix options on lame.
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<dwihno> Hey, what is displayed when songs are played?
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<g003y> id3 info with the current cvs tree
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<g003y> lcd_puts(0, 0, mp3.artist?mp3.artist:"<no artist>");
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<g003y> lcd_puts(0, 1, mp3.title?mp3.title:"<no title>");
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<g003y> there ya go :D
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<dwihno> oww
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<dwihno> Doesn't it handle non-tagged files?! :(
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<Bagder> you mean id3 info without id3? ;-)
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<dwihno> hehehe
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<g003y> hehehehehehehe
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<dwihno> mr. funny-ass pants ;)
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<g003y> I've got alternatives going on my local copy
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<g003y> so I'm sure it will be handled eventually
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<g003y> at least before the recorder version comes out :D
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<dwihno> cool
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<Bagder> haha
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* Bagder puts the "in charge of the while-playing-song display" sticker on g003y
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<g003y> gagagagagagagagagag
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<g003y> hey that isn't coming off!
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<g003y> only problem is I don't have everything quite setup right here. I need to get an account and a real cvs login for the project
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<Bagder> mail your sf account user name to Bj<42>rn
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<g003y> I will though... I'd really like to contribute my code
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<g003y> oh... I've got to get an sf account as well :D
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<Bagder> you can always start with mailing diffs
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<g003y> tru
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<g003y> e
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<g003y> I've just been syncing anon and patching my changes
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<g003y> it's not much so far, but I should get setup properly
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<g003y> I still can't believe how advanced the apis on the firmware are already
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<Bagder> it's pretty cool indeed
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<g003y> alrighty guys. like Bagder I have to code boring stuff in a few hours at my day job. So I think some sleep is in order for me.
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<Bagder> night g003y
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<g003y> night
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<Bagder> it seems as if Zagor has problems with the new hardware... it should've been up by now
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<Bagder> cpu MHz : 1600.072
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<dwihno> [~] cat /proc/cpuinfo|grep MHz
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<dwihno> cpu MHz : 232.674
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<dwihno> cpu MHz : 232.674
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<dwihno> There you got it
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<dwihno> dual s<>st<73><74>m
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<dwihno> Dual is sleek, sexy and pr0no! :)
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<Bagder> dual 1600
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<Bagder> cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep MHz
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<Bagder> cpu MHz : 1600.072
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<Bagder> cpu MHz : 1600.072
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<dwihno> you evil dude!
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<dwihno> :)
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<Bagder> its the new hardware that the rockbox site runs on
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<dwihno> cool stuff
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<dwihno> who pays the hw?
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<Bagder> Contactor
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<Bagder> the company I, Bj<42>rn and Linus work for
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<dwihno> Hire me :)
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<dwihno> <Bagder> sure
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<dwihno> Yay ;D
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<Bagder> hehe
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<dwihno> Why not? :)
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<Bagder> I wish we could, but the market is a bit rough atm
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<dwihno> I know
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<dwihno> Are your employers aware of you spending a lot of time on the Rockbox project?
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<Bagder> no :-)
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<Bagder> I won't tell them
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<Bagder> but then I must do my proper work properly anyway
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<dwihno> Yeah
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<dwihno> My recorder sometimes skips the initial 200 msecs of a song...
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<Bagder> exactly 200?
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<dwihno> Roughly
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<dwihno> (with the stock firmware, that is)
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<dwihno> Do you experience that on the player models?
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<dwihno> (w, w/o rockbox)
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<Bagder> no idea
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<Bagder> hey ho
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<Zagor> hi. back at last
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<dwihno> 10:04 < Zagor> see you soon
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<dwihno> ;)
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<Zagor> yeah, well that's pc hardware for you...
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<Zagor> the motherboard has two IDE LED connectors
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<Zagor> if you connect the "wrong" one, the keyboard stops working...
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<Zagor> that one took me a while to figure out...
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<dwihno> Intel inside, Zagor outside
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<Zagor> so, what have you guys been up to this morning?
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<dwihno> We've been talking about how rockbox handles tags when the files do not have id3 tags :)
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<Bagder> g00ey was around and told us he's done some improvements on the software for what to show while a track is playing
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<Bagder> g003y
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<Zagor> ok, did we get the code?
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<dwihno> And I thought the scroller would be seamless
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<Zagor> seamless?
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<Bagder> Zagor: no, but he'll return
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<Zagor> dwihno: what do you mean seamless?
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<dwihno> I'll show
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<dwihno> Zagor had a little lamb.mp3
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<dwihno> or had a little lamb.mp3
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<dwihno> a little lamb.mp3
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<dwihno> lamb.mp3
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<dwihno> This is how it is now
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<dwihno> Zagor had a little lamb.mp3
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<dwihno> or had a little lamb.mp3
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<Zagor> not any more
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<dwihno> a little lamb.mp3 Zagor
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<dwihno> lamb.mp3 Zagor had a littl
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<dwihno> This is what it might be like :)
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<Zagor> you run old code
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<Zagor> it is seamless now
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<dwihno> mkay
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<Bagder> upgrade! ;-)
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<dwihno> OLD?!
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<dwihno> It's 24 hours old man! :)
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<dwihno> Or perhaps 48
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<Zagor> yeah, i fixed that last night
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<Bagder> hehe
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<Zagor> that's stone-age code! :)
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<dwihno> :-)
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<dwihno> Did you take a peek at the LCD glitch?
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<Zagor> umm, remind me please?
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<dwihno> When scrolling across pages, the LCD did glitch
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<dwihno> Like old un-doublebuffered stuff :)
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<dwihno> Where is your lamb btw?
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<Zagor> ah, well we don't know why that happens. and yes, it is single buffered. we don't have two.
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<Zagor> lamb?
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<dwihno> yeah
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<dwihno> http://www.jupither.net/dw/ <-- like that, on that page ;)
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<Bagder> Zagor: you tried the id3 info Magnus mention on the list?
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<Bagder> id3 info bug
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<Zagor> i haven't read my mail yet, doing it now
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<Bagder> oh
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<dwihno> R-r-r-roockboooox!
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<dwihno> We need an anthem!
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<Bagder> yeah, the boot song! ;-)
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<Zagor> brb
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<dwihno> Bagder: you got it! :)
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<dwihno> The Rockbox-choir and the London philharmonic orchestra ,D
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<Bagder> haahah
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<dwihno> Maybe I can pull a few strings ;)
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<dwihno> Get it?
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<dwihno> Strings :)
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<dwihno> *moo haw haw*
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<Bagder> mr joker ;-)
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<dwihno> :)
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<Bagder> wooo, project activity stats on freshmeat
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<Zagor> really
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<Bagder> I meant graphs
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<Zagor> "Rating: 8.54/10.00 (1 vote)"
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<Zagor> how can one vote give average 8.54?
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<Bagder> hehe
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<dwihno> Magic math (tm)
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<Bagder> hey, I'm that single voter
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<Bagder> on rockbox
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<Zagor> this virus epidemic is getting seriously annoying
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<Bagder> Total (weighted) 8.54/10.00
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<Bagder> "weighted" is the keyword I gues
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<Bagder> guess
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<Bagder> Zagor: yes, but cut down the allowed size and it won't be as troublesome
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<Zagor> good point. 50k max now
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<Bagder> Klez virus mails are always >100K, at least those hundreds that I've got
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<Zagor> min plugin_teamkill funkar iaf, ser jag
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<Zagor> uh, wrong channel :(
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<Bagder> hey jedix
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<jedix> hey
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* dwihno is rather happy now
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<dwihno> 4 of 5 projects are in the "no work to do" area of my list :D
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<Bagder> and the fifth is "Implement asteroids on Rockbox" ?
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<Bagder> :-P
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<dwihno> hehe
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<dwihno> not really
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<Bagder> darn
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<dwihno> I have no computer to work on sparetime projectgs
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<dwihno> Which is rather nasty
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<dwihno> I mean, I'm actually getting a tan! :(
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<Bagder> sun gives you cancer
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<dwihno> I know! I need some way to stay indoors!
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<Bagder> compile, link, upload, flash, run, watch problem, edit, save => LOOP
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<Bagder> (my whole day in summary)
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<dwihno> flash?
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<Bagder> flash rom
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<dwihno> mkay
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<Bagder> I don't even have a debugger on my darned target
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<Bagder> have to fill my code with printf()
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<dwihno> What is the target hardware?
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<Bagder> strongarm 1110
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<dwihno> whoa
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<Bagder> no, its no whoa ;-)
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<dwihno> jees, it iis
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<jedix`> timeout jedix
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<JediX> whats new?
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<Bagder> not very much
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<Zagor> fixing randomize menu option now
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<Bagder> neat
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<dw|gone> NEATO ZAGOR! All your box are belong to rock!
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<dw|gone> I'm off. Have a nice evening and try to stay indoors - the sun will cause cancer!
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<Bagder> I'd suggest you call it "shuffle" and not random
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<Zagor> good idea
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<Zagor> where do I find the currently loaded list?
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<Bagder> it's a global struct in playlist.c
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<Zagor> ok
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* Zagor wants current_tick in simulator... :)
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<Zagor> i'll just use time() instead
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<Zagor> for seed
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<Bagder> it doesn't really matter
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<Bagder> just increase the current
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<Bagder> or something
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<Zagor> i'll use the tick. otherwise it'll be the same every first time after boot
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<Bagder> right
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<Zagor> oops, core in playlist
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<Zagor> after 1002 lines
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<Bagder> ah
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<Bagder> there's a 1000 max
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<Zagor> oh
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<Zagor> i thought it was 10000 ?
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<Bagder> without any checks for it ;-)
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<Bagder> yeah, but I just used one
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<Bagder> raise it now
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<Zagor> will do
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<Zagor> adding check, too :)
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<Bagder> wooo
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<Zagor> what's index_array used for? I don't see it
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<Bagder> uh, remove ;-)
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<Zagor> ok
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<jedix> Zagor: why did you have to rewrite my scroll stuff?
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<Zagor> I chose a slightly different approach, that's all
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<Zagor> there was nothing wrong with your code
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<Zagor> to be able to do the new type of scroll, I sprintf the text into a string and then puts the string.
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<Zagor> for the new shuffle to be useful, we need a "next tracj" button
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<Zagor> track
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<Bagder> we could use that for playlist without shuffle too ;-)
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<Zagor> yep
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<Zagor> too bad we are out of buttons :)
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<Bagder> well
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<Bagder> we should have a special "screen" for showing while playing a track, right? I mean if we're not browsing the tree?
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<Zagor> yes we should. so you could go in and out between the browser and this screen
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<Bagder> right
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<Zagor> i.e. we need some UI work
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<Zagor> might want to save that for 1.2 though
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<Bagder> fair enough
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<Bagder> and if we play a track and idle in the tree browser, we could timeout back to the show-track-screen
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<Bagder> which I believe the archos firmware does
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<Zagor> we could, but I'm not sure I'd want it to. definitely a configurable option :)
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<Bagder> yes
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<Bagder> the play-screen will be useful since it'll give more control of back/skip and volume up/down
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<Bagder> which isn't as easily available when tree browsing
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<Zagor> exactly
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<Bagder> the shuffle menu should probably say something if no playlist was loaded
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<Zagor> right
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<Bagder> I suspect people will do that
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<Bagder> I wonder how fast the playlist loader is on target
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<Bagder> I mean, compared to the original archos one
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<Zagor> i'd suspect somewhere in the order of 100 times faster :)
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<Bagder> it would be really cool
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<edx> hi
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<Bagder> hi!
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<edx> hmm... (maybe a stupid question... but..) would it be possible to write a keybard driver for the jukebox so we can plug in a usb keyboard :?
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<Bagder> no
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<edx> too sad.. why not?
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<Bagder> we can't use the USB for anything like that
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<edx> for what reason?
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<Bagder> it's out of reach
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<edx> damn.
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<edx> like a linux console on the recorder would rock ;)
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* Bagder puts a curl release together
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<Zagor> we can connect a keyboard to the remote control port
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<edx> hmm on the remote port... sounds good... :)
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<edx> Then I would have to build my own remote port.. but for a keyboard - no problem :)
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<Zagor> you need to build a serial converter for the keyboard, but the rest should be simple
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<edx> there are serial converter chips, right? (i dont have much knowledge about hardware unfortunately)
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<Zagor> yup. just like the gdb cable
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<Zagor> tested now. my 4500 line file takes about 5-6 seconds to load
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<Bagder> that's just totally awesome
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<Zagor> indeed
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<Zagor> but it'll be faster with some simple adjustments to playlist.c
|
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<Bagder> like what?
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<Zagor> it should be loading 512-byte blocks, not 255
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<Bagder> ah right
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<Zagor> fixing...
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<elinenbe> 'ello
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<edx> lol ... now it takes like 5 secs for a 30 song playlist :P
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<edx> hi
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<Bagder> yeah, the stock firmware is shockingly slow at loading playlists
|
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<elinenbe> painfully slow.
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<elinenbe> so slow -- I usually take a dump, shower, and shave before it loads my 3 song playlist.
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<Zagor> also, we should accept both / and \ as separators. i suspect winamp creates files with \
|
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<Bagder> elinenbe: Zagor just tested, we load a 4500 song playlist in 5-6 seconds
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<elinenbe> that is great.
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<elinenbe> we are now talking full disk shuffle?
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<Zagor> yes we are
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<Bagder> yeah
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<Bagder> Zagor: we might get problems with paths too when we talk about files created by external programs
|
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<Zagor> yep. C:\my music\...
|
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<Zagor> :)
|
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<Bagder> yah
|
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<elinenbe> I am just wondering... what is the status on playing sound on the AJBR
|
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<Zagor> Linus is working on that
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<Bagder> we should include Linus in our prayers ;-)
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<elinenbe> I was wondering... does anyone else ever get the reversed screen on the recorder?
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<Bagder> hey ironi
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<Bagder> reversed screen?
|
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<elinenbe> even the rockbox bmp is reversed
|
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<ironi> Bagder: ?
|
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<ironi> hey Bagder
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<edx> huhu?
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<Bagder> gosh
|
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<ironi> Bagder: do u use emacs a lot?
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<elinenbe> where everything is flipped.
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<Bagder> ironi: nah, only 10-12 hours a day ;-P
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<ironi> Bagder: my irc script supports emacs commands
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<elinenbe> like you are looking at a mirror image of the screnn.
|
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<ironi> isnt that totally elite
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<ironi> =)
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<Bagder> elinenbe: and that happens every now or then or can you repeat it on demand?
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<elinenbe> no, happens every now and then.
|
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<elinenbe> not only is the screen mirrored, but it is offset about 16 pixels.
|
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<Bagder> it sounds if there's some lcd init we dont do
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<elinenbe> to the right.
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<elinenbe> no... that happens with the archos fimrware too.
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<Bagder> ah
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<elinenbe> on the recorder.
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<Bagder> then it might be a defect hardware perhaps
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<edx> hm then thats a hardware bug (?)
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<elinenbe> yeah I dont know if anyone else ever gets that.
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<edx> i have a recorder. never ever got that.
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<Bagder> I've never seen it either
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<ironi> i have a player, and I lvoe the double size text
|
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<Bagder> hehe
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<ironi> the browsing and the scrolling are so FAST
|
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<ironi> i just love this
|
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<edx> hehe
|
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<ironi> I want to contribute som uch
|
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<elinenbe> is the double size text an option on the player rockbox?
|
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<Zagor> you have already: the web site!
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<ironi> but there is still an error with how directories are displayed, though.
|
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<ironi> at least for me
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<Bagder> elinenbe: yeps
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<Zagor> elinenbe: the new models use it as logo
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<elinenbe> nice :)
|
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<Zagor> ironi: what error is that?
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<ironi> Zagor: well let me try to explain
|
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<elinenbe> the scrolling through a directory is quite slow on the recorder -- and there is quite a bit of flicker.
|
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<ironi> my dir that is called F-J
|
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<Zagor> elinenbe: yes, we're not sure why
|
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<ironi> is displayed as F-J1 q|| r
|
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<Zagor> ironi: which version is this?
|
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<ironi> but only whgen scrolling down
|
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<ironi> if i go down and go back up its F-J
|
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<ironi> Zagor: the latest?
|
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<ironi> i got it last night
|
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<Bagder> this morning?
|
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<elinenbe> I was wondering -- does this sound like something that is a good idea: instead of scrolling only the title that the cursor is on, scroll everything on the current screen that is wider then the screen?
|
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<ironi> no last night
|
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<ironi> lemme get this mornings
|
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<Bagder> ironi: please do
|
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<ironi> an optional go to usb mode yes/no would be pleasant
|
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<ironi> when plugging it in
|
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<Zagor> elinenbe: well, i have to ask "why?" :)
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<ironi> that would be terribly confusing on fast scroll
|
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<elinenbe> well, lets say you have 10 songs named "Red Hot Chili Peppers - Songname 1
|
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<Zagor> hmm, maybe we should do the vertical recorder scroll using bitmap instead redrawing the chars
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<elinenbe> "Red Hot Chili Peppers - Songname 2
|
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<elinenbe> etc...
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<ironi> hm
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<Bagder> Zagor: that's a good idea
|
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<Zagor> elinenbe: ah, you mean scroll all lines and not just one?
|
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<elinenbe> and you want to play a certain one.
|
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<ironi> im thinking of something
|
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<elinenbe> yes.
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<ironi> that moving through a dir in the player should give movement on every push
|
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<Zagor> we could try
|
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<elinenbe> if it were a bitmap scroll, then couldn't you easily do pixel by pixel?
|
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<Zagor> elinenbe: yes we could
|
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<ironi> i.e. not just moving the arrow down if its on top when scrolling down the first one
|
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<ironi> it confuses me totally
|
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<Zagor> ironi: hehe. well yes there is lots of UI work left :)
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<Zagor> i have to go now, they're closing the office!
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<ironi> Zagor: can i be the UI general, please please please
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<Zagor> see you tomorrow, everyone
|
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<ironi> =)
|
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<ironi> ok so lets see the newset build
|
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<ironi> same error
|
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* Bagder hands ironi the UI boss hat
|
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<ironi> hehe
|
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<ironi> i wan tso much to be in the credz =)
|
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<ironi> *waNNABE*
|
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<ironi> anyway
|
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<Zagor> we'll add you for the web site
|
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<ironi> hehe cool =)
|
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<ironi> anyway
|
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<ironi> the browsing should have a slight delay
|
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<Zagor> gotta run, bye
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<elinenbe> what do you mean by the browsing should have a slight delay?
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<elinenbe> later.
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<ironi> cause now when i push i scroll by 3 rows like nothing
|
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<ironi> with a 2-row display this is very annoying
|
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<Bagder> right
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<Bagder> the buttons are a bit sensitive
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<ironi> yeahm, thats the least you could say
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<ironi> the scrolling should be settable from 1-10
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<ironi> everything over 15 is totally underadable, isnt it
|
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<Bagder> ...not on the recorder ;-)
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<edx> hehe ;)
|
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<ironi> the menu button should have like a 0.3 second delay when pushed
|
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<ironi> i.e. you need to hold it for that time
|
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* edx looks down to his recorder and smiles..
|
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<ironi> to activate
|
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<elinenbe> I like the recorder at 25
|
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<ironi> oh really? ok. well 5 is neat fo rme
|
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<ironi> 6 manybe
|
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<elinenbe> is there any saving of values to the disk yet?
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<Bagder> no
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<ironi> oh really
|
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<ironi> well how will this be saved?
|
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<elinenbe> how si that going to be handled?
|
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<ironi> just a textfile
|
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<ironi> config file
|
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<ironi> is it possible to implement that
|
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<Bagder> sure
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<ironi> cause hten we could move on and make a filehandler
|
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<elinenbe> in an unused sector -- like the default firmware does it?
|
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<ironi> that can make dirs, copy, delete
|
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<ironi> =)))
|
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<ironi> hehe maybe a bit of an overkill
|
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<elinenbe> I like the idea of an ascii config file.
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<ironi> i would love to be able to read txt-files
|
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<ironi> lovely to make notes for grocery shopping hah
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<Bagder> contribution time!
|
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<ironi> it sahould be possible to make a game for the player too
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<ironi> am i wqrong or is the disk read alot shorter with rockbox firmware?
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<ironi> when entering new dirs
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<Bagder> dunno
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<Bagder> gotta run, see ya tomorrow
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<ironi> have you ever played arkanoid?
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<elinenbe> later.
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<elinenbe> go home.
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<ironi> that would be able to do on the player
|
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<ironi> =)
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<ironi> a vertical arcanoid
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<elinenbe> that would be nice.
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<ironi> elinenbe: do you know how to set it up to be able to compile everyitng in windows?
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<elinenbe> no. I was messing around with it.
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<elinenbe> but I guess over the last few days, a bunch has been done to it.
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<ironi> ok
|
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<elinenbe> you need to use nmake.
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<ironi> i think i will do linux trough vmware maybe
|
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<ironi> kinda easier
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<elinenbe> follow the directions on the web page -- they are easy to follow.
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<ironi> im more used to compile in linux so ill jsut stick to that
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<ironi> and play around with vmware at the same time hehe
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<elinenbe> there is no auto-off in the AJBR Rockbox.
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<elinenbe> of course you know that already...
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<edx|studying> hmmm does the recorder version play songs yet?
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<plmirc> HI at All !
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<plmirc> well... :-|
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<edx|studying> yo
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<plmirc> Bye at all...
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<edx> bye
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<plmirc> :)
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<edx> lol
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<PsycoXul> heh
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<edx> rehi ;)
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<Zagor> hi
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<edx> Zagor: does the playback work on the recorder?
|
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<Zagor> not yet
|
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<edx> k
|
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<edx> (didnt work for me.. that's why i'm asking)
|
||
<edx> i modified the makefile so it compiles on windows (but it wont compile on linux with that makefile anymore..)
|
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<edx> we gotta make a makefile for windows & linux
|
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<edx> (not now.. sometime later.. ;) )
|
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<Zagor> what did you change?
|
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<edx> i removed the dependency stuff
|
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<Zagor> oh...
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<edx> (scripting does not work in windows..)
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<edx> no sh.exe
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<Zagor> i know
|
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<edx> at least i get a compiled file that actually works...
|
||
<edx> we could also create a makefile.win32 or something (for win32 users who want to compile the firmware..)
|
||
<Zagor> yes
|
||
<edx> maybe that will be easier than having a linwin file...
|
||
<edx> also, i think the if statements dont work under windows.
|
||
<edx> (i had to remove them to get the recorder code compiled..)
|
||
<Zagor> are you using nmake?
|
||
<edx> no
|
||
<edx> i use the make that comes with the GNUSH tool chain
|
||
<edx> nmake really is a whole different story
|
||
<Zagor> what does "make --version" report?
|
||
<edx> GNU Make version 3.78.1, by Richard Stallman and Roland McGrath.
|
||
<edx> Built for Windows32
|
||
<Zagor> what does it say when you have the if lines?
|
||
<edx> nothing, it just does not do what inside the if lines...
|
||
<edx> (though it should)
|
||
<edx> what = what is
|
||
<Zagor> ok
|
||
<edx> how far is rolo btw (is it even developed at the moment?)
|
||
<Zagor> no, we haven't started with it yet.
|
||
<edx> ok... because if we had that I could at least put rockbox on there to play (and still listen to music heheh)
|
||
<edx> right now rolo will play a pretty important role, specially for those people who are unsure whether to use rockbox or the archos mod
|
||
<Zagor> i know, i want rolo too. it's just we don't have unlimited manpower :)
|
||
<edx> true.
|
||
<edx> If I could i'd help but I guess I have to little low-level experience...
|
||
<edx> the file must be read to ram and then.. the instruction pointer set to that location (correct me if i am totally wrong)
|
||
<Zagor> your helping very much already, with the win32 stuff
|
||
<Zagor> yes, but there are "a few" other things too :)
|
||
<edx> (yea.. must be the correct place in ram etc..)
|
||
<edx> and the rolo must be deleted out of ram i guess (because the archos mod wants to use all of the ram and is designed for that i guess)
|
||
<edx> anyways.. nice revery hehe
|
||
<Zagor> yes, rolo will be overwritten by the mod
|
||
<edx> ok
|
||
<edx> i gotta get some sleep... last class test for this school year tomorrow :D
|
||
<edx> cya all
|
||
<Zagor> bye
|
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<PsycoXul> heh
|
||
<PsycoXul> so who thinks they might want to get rolo rolling?
|
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<g003y> heya all
|
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<PsycoXul> hi
|
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|
||
<g003y> I always have to go back to that dang nick reference :D
|
||
<Zagor> hehe
|
||
<g003y> you guys on the other side of the pond are still up?
|
||
<Zagor> I'd like to use "Bjorn", but unfortunately it's registered to someone else
|
||
<Zagor> yeah, it's 22:55 here
|
||
<g003y> yeah I just randomly typed g003y into trillian :D
|
||
<Zagor> hehe
|
||
<g003y> Zagor - Bagder told me to get an SF account setup and talk to you about getting ssh cvs access.
|
||
<g003y> you the man for that ?
|
||
<Zagor> yep
|
||
<g003y> cool
|
||
<g003y> I've been working on some stuff locally
|
||
<Zagor> yeah?
|
||
<g003y> playing around with displaying filenames and such as songs play
|
||
<g003y> getting my head around the api
|
||
<g003y> more apps stuff
|
||
<Zagor> ok, nice
|
||
<g003y> I'm not a hardware guy like all yousese :D. But I know C and applications :D
|
||
<g003y> anyway I was looking at adding a real primitive display format
|
||
<g003y> right now I can compile with support for scrolling the filename or using the current behavior
|
||
<g003y> it actually works nicely thanks to those wonderful scrolling apis :D
|
||
<Zagor> :)
|
||
<g003y> so I was thinking of having just a couple of different things we can support
|
||
<g003y> with playing file display
|
||
<Zagor> sure
|
||
<g003y> id3 info being one
|
||
<g003y> scrolling filename being another
|
||
<g003y> but potentially a way to instruct the play how to disect your filename/directory structure to build id3 like information on the screen
|
||
<g003y> play == player
|
||
<Zagor> yes, that'd be good
|
||
<g003y> but the real question right now is....
|
||
<g003y> should I make it a compiled in option or something that could be configured through settings?
|
||
<Zagor> settings, definitely
|
||
<g003y> ok cool.
|
||
<g003y> that is how I would prefer it
|
||
<g003y> anyway I will get an sf account email ya
|
||
<Zagor> ok
|
||
<g003y> BTW - your cross compiler buld instructions worked first shot for me.
|
||
<Zagor> nice!
|
||
<g003y> took me about 5 minutes to get up and running
|
||
<g003y> I'm on win32 using cygwin as well
|
||
<g003y> one other question for you. Whats the deal with the battery display? I've only started logging recently and haven't dug through all the old logs yet
|
||
<Zagor> we have no battery display yet
|
||
<g003y> I noticed :D
|
||
<g003y> but is it an unknown thing
|
||
<Zagor> measuring battery capacity is a whole science in itself
|
||
<g003y> ahhh
|
||
<Zagor> so we're putting that off a bit until the basic stuff works
|
||
<g003y> cool
|
||
<elinenbe> g003y: how do you use the make files in win32?
|
||
<g003y> I do everything through the bash shell cygwin provides
|
||
<g003y> so technically I use the *nix like make
|
||
<g003y> but if you're attempting the uisimulator compile then you need to use nmake
|
||
<g003y> from a dos window
|
||
<elinenbe> oh -- how does that work? I am not familiar with the bash shell that comew with cygwin
|
||
<elinenbe> did you download the source tarball or use wincvs
|
||
<g003y> are you just trying to get the firmware configured?
|
||
<g003y> I sync to current with wincvs
|
||
<g003y> but I started with the tarballs
|
||
<elinenbe> well, I want to be able to compile the firmware.
|
||
<g003y> ok
|
||
<g003y> cygwin gives you a little batch file you double click
|
||
<g003y> that gives you a shell right? That is bash
|
||
<g003y> from there you would build the cross compiler as Bjorn has put together on the website
|
||
<elinenbe> I know bash and linux
|
||
<g003y> I tried the GNU-SH toolkit, but it just wasn't cutting it for me
|
||
<g003y> ok good well cygwin gives you the same stuff basically
|
||
<elinenbe> I was just unfamiliar with the bash shell that is makes for windows.
|
||
<g003y> it's close, but not exactly the same
|
||
<g003y> just use the batch file they plop on the desktop and it will put you in your home directory
|
||
<g003y> from there it will feel more familiar
|
||
<elinenbe> ok
|
||
<g003y> setup all your normal include stuff and everything
|
||
<elinenbe> did you just follow the directions on the web page?
|
||
<g003y> then just do the configure & compile
|
||
<elinenbe> http://bjorn.haxx.se/rockbox/sh-win/
|
||
<g003y> yeah except
|
||
<g003y> no not that one
|
||
<g003y> I couldn't get compiles to work with that tool kit
|
||
<elinenbe> not what?
|
||
<elinenbe> oh, so what toolkit did you use?
|
||
<g003y> http://bjorn.haxx.se/rockbox/cross-gcc.html
|
||
<g003y> I followed those directions
|
||
<g003y> inside of a cygwin win32 bash shell
|
||
<g003y> GNU-SH just wouldn't fly for me
|
||
<elinenbe> well, where did you dl the cygwin bash shell.
|
||
<elinenbe> ?
|
||
<g003y> http://www.cgywin.org/
|
||
<g003y> just go for the installer
|
||
<elinenbe> ok. thanks so much.
|
||
<g003y> get the packages you need to get yourself started
|
||
<g003y> though you won't need newlib compiled in
|
||
<g003y> so you can drop that bit
|
||
<g003y> after cygwin does it's thing you will need to recompile gcc with the sh1 extensions
|
||
<elinenbe> the page you speak of is http://www.cygwin.com/
|
||
<elinenbe> ok
|
||
<g003y> oh yeah d....o....t....com
|
||
<g003y> :D
|
||
<g003y> anyway you will need gcc to get to gcc 3.x with sh1
|
||
<elinenbe> so, you just downloaded the gcc and installed as per insturction on http://bjorn.haxx.se/rockbox/cross-gcc.html?
|
||
<g003y> yup
|
||
<g003y> minus newlib
|
||
<PsycoXul> hmm
|
||
<PsycoXul> why not newlib?
|
||
<Zagor> we aren't using it any more
|
||
<PsycoXul> ah
|
||
<PsycoXul> cool
|
||
<g003y> IDK - I saw on the mailing list not to use it
|
||
<Zagor> just a few header files are still needed
|
||
<g003y> there ya go :D
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<elinenbe> ok -- great. Thanks so much.
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<g003y> no prob
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<Zagor> hey bro
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<Bagder> hey
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<g003y> heh... so you guys are related?
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<Zagor> yeah, we're brothers
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<Zagor> the playlist loader reads around 1000 lines per second. that's not bad!
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<g003y> thats pretty damn good
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<Bagder> it's so darned cool
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<Zagor> sure is
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<Bagder> so the shuffle stuff works now?
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<Zagor> umm, haven't tried it yet. the batteries in my player are empty (and the charger circuit is busted)
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<Zagor> i have only tested on the recorder so far
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<Zagor> it should go even faster on the player, since it's clocked faster
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<Zagor> not very much, though
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<Bagder> about 9%
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<g003y> I'll give it a try tonight when I recompile
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<g003y> I have a player
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<Bagder> neato
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<Zagor> ok
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<Bagder> we need the playlist tested a bit
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<g003y> I'm just at my day job right now coding less interesting crap
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<Bagder> g003y: so what kind of stuff do you work with?
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<g003y> a mixture of win32 & *nixes
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<g003y> C, perl asp... whatever needs to be done mostly
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<g003y> most of our FEs are IIS
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<Zagor> ueck :)
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<g003y> but lots of the behind the scenes is unixy
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<g003y> hey I even hop on the g4 once and awhile to pretend I have a flipper for the mouse button :D
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<Zagor> hehe
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<Bagder> :-)
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<Bagder> http://freshmeat.net/stats/#vitality
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* Bagder smiles
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<Zagor> hehe
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<g003y> I don't see rockbox there yet :D
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<g003y> j (score: 44,252 - 36.97%)
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<g003y> A programmer's editor written in Java.
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<g003y> that is up there, but VI or VIM is not?
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<Zagor> it's a new rating system, there hasn't been a lot of votes yet
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<g003y> ahhhhh... gotcha
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<Bagder> vitality isn't based on that
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<Zagor> ah, yes that was vitality
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<Bagder> but it requires rather frequent releases
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<Zagor> vi has vitality 0.01% :)
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<g003y> gotcha
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<Zagor> vim is at 0.51%
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<Bagder> so more stable projects tend to get less "vital"
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<Zagor> rockbox is at 0.00
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<g003y> well how is popularity rated?
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<Bagder> I honestly don't know how any of those numbers are calculated
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<Zagor> "The popularity score superseded the old counters for record hits, URL hits and subscriptions. Popularity is calculated as (record hits * URL hits * (subscriptions + 1))^(1/3)."
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<Bagder> oh
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<Bagder> curl = Popularity: 12.84% (Rank 100)
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<Zagor> "The vitality score for a project is calculated like this: (announcements * age) / (last_announcement)"
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<g003y> oh there is the link I was looking for that zagor kindly regurigiated for me :D
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<Zagor> hehe
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* Zagor is trying to get used to mutt...
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<g003y> mutt is nice
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<g003y> unfortunately I haven't converted yet
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<Zagor> i've used elm and thenpine for the last 10 years, so it's hard for me to change
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<Bagder> I've built my whole life around pine ;-)
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<g003y> hahahahahaha
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<Bagder> Zagor: so what's left for a 1.1 release?
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<Zagor> nothing, really. I just want to test it a bit more.
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<Bagder> ok
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<Bagder> just checking ;-)
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<Zagor> i'm thinking maybe "Shuffle" should be an "on/off" option rather than an action
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<Bagder> yes
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<Bagder> and possible a "reshuffle" as an action
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<Zagor> so you set it before you start the playlist
|
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<Bagder> possibly
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<Zagor> yeah
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<Bagder> did you time the shuffle of 4500 songs?
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<Bagder> or didn't you try it?
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<Zagor> i did. 5120 songs takes just under 5 seconds
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<Bagder> yes, to read from a file, right?
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<Zagor> oh, the shuffle. hang on...
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<Bagder> I meant only the shuffle part
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<Zagor> it's very quick. sub-second i think
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<Bagder> that is great
|
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<Zagor> tested now. it's like 0.5 seconds.
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<g003y> schweet
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<Bagder> it makes me feel really warm inside that our thoughs prove to be working so good
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<Zagor> yes, i agree
|
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<Zagor> and this means 1.1 will be a real alternative for some people. still very unpolished, but with one killer feature
|
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<Bagder> yeah
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<g003y> shuffle that blows archos' effort out of the water?
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<Zagor> fast and big playlists
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<g003y> I thought you were talking just shuffle there
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<Zagor> archos don't do shuffling like this, so there's no real comparison.
|
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<g003y> another killer feature?
|
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<Zagor> but they do load playlists, at a horrible speed
|
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<g003y> the playlist stuff is horrible on theirs
|
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<Zagor> the huge playlist support is our killer feature
|
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<g003y> they've got features, but sacrificed speed
|
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<g003y> yeah thats great
|
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<PsycoXul> whats its limit? memory? heh
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<PsycoXul> or hd space?
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<PsycoXul> or what
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<Zagor> we set a 10000 entry limit
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<Bagder> they probably just do it "The Wrong Way"
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<Zagor> memory is the limit, since we need to hold one integer per entry
|
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<PsycoXul> heh
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<g003y> I thought the integer solution was quite crafty.
|
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<g003y> I believe archos is doing something far nastier with memory usage
|
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<Zagor> I like it
|
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<Zagor> oooh yes...
|
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<Bagder> just watching the time it takes to load a playlist indicates something really nasty
|
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<g003y> so have any of the archos ppl contacted the group about this project in any way?
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<Zagor> nope
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<Zagor> they ignore us vehemently :)
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<g003y> you're making their dev team look bad :D
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<Zagor> hehe
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<Bagder> we've gone from completely *nothing* to this point in ~6 months
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<g003y> fricking good stuff :)
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<Zagor> all the code is written since april...
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<Bagder> hehe
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<Bagder> can you run a simulated player?
|
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<Zagor> yes
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<Bagder> it just died so hard on me
|
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<Zagor> but I get a lot of those X errors
|
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<Bagder> I can't even close gdb now!
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<Bagder> The program is running. Exit anyway? (y or n) y
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<Zagor> that happened to me too the other day
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<Bagder> Error accessing memory address 0x4018d664: No such process.
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<g003y> doh!
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<Zagor> ouch
|
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<Bagder> had to kill it manually from another terminal
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<Bagder> hm
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<g003y> ok
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<g003y> sorry wrong window :D
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<g003y> dang trillian makes that stuff confusing :D
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<Bagder> it just does not work here
|
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<Zagor> odd
|
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<Bagder> all I see is the initial screen
|
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<Bagder> and nothing more happens
|
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<Zagor> trillian hung a win2k box solid for me the other day. i ain't touching that stuff again :)
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<Bagder> "ROCKbox" "CVS"
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<g003y> I run trillian on win2k connected to IRC, AIM, ICQ and YIM. I can't live without it anymore :D
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<Bagder> but the recorder version runs just fine
|
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<Bagder> how do I switch thread in gdb?
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<Bagder> hehe
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<Bagder> no archos dir
|
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<Zagor> moooh
|
||
<Bagder> I made one now
|
||
<Bagder> and...
|
||
<Bagder> Segmentation fault (core dumped)
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<g003y> bomb baby bomb!
|
||
<Zagor> it shouldn't crash so hard for that
|
||
<g003y> user error? :D
|
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<Bagder> lcd_puts_scroll()
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<Bagder> #0 0x401ed897 in strlen (str=0x1 <Address 0x1 out of bounds>)
|
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<Bagder> at ../sysdeps/i386/strlen.c:27
|
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<Bagder> #1 0x804e8e1 in lcd_puts (x=1, y=0, str=0x1 <Address 0x1 out of bounds>)
|
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<Bagder> at ../../firmware/drivers/lcd.c:501
|
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<Bagder> #2 0x804f04f in lcd_puts_scroll (x=1, y=0,
|
||
<Bagder> string=0x1 <Address 0x1 out of bounds>) at ../../firmware/drivers/lcd.c:773
|
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<Bagder> #3 0x804d37e in dirbrowse (root=0x8050e7f "/") at ../../apps/tree.c:243
|
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<elinenbe> later guys. you fucking rock! (off to do some database modelling and design!)
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<Bagder> see ya elinenbe
|
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<g003y> cya
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<Bagder> Zagor: I have a completely empty dir
|
||
<Zagor> i'll test
|
||
<Zagor> i got the crash too
|
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<Bagder> tree.c line 243
|
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<Zagor> ah, of course. silly me
|
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<Zagor> any empty dir will crash it
|
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<Bagder> yeah
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<Zagor> fixed
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* Bagder updates
|
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<Bagder> better
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<Bagder> but what is the question mark doing there?
|
||
<Zagor> it's the cursor
|
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<Bagder> ah
|
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<Zagor> special char on player
|
||
<Bagder> we should fake that better in the simulator
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<Zagor> yup
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<Zagor> i also want icons in the player simulator soon...
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<Bagder> true
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<Bagder> shouldn't be too hard
|
||
<Bagder> I like the scroll
|
||
<Zagor> yeah, it's nice. your idea was better.
|
||
<Bagder> I think so too, it fills better
|
||
<Zagor> the code is actually simpler for this scroll than the previous model
|
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<PsycoXul> hey somebody wanna post a current-cvs new-player build i can try out? i haven't messed with it since i went on vacation
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<Zagor> sure
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||
<Zagor> http://bjorn.haxx.se/rockbox/player/archos.mod
|
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<PsycoXul> thanks
|
||
<PsycoXul> hmm ok
|
||
<PsycoXul> that doesn't update the LCD at all after the rom firmware boot screen
|
||
<Bagder> wrong lcd version?
|
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<Zagor> uh, it doesn't?
|
||
<Zagor> duh, I gave you an old player version. sorry
|
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<PsycoXul> heh
|
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<Zagor> grab it again
|
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<PsycoXul> nice
|
||
<Zagor> try starting a playlist
|
||
<g003y> that mod for the 4.50+ player hardware?
|
||
<Zagor> yup
|
||
<PsycoXul> ok
|
||
<PsycoXul> i've only got a couple of short playlists saved on here heh
|
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<Bagder> booo ;-)
|
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<g003y> get those perl scripts out :D
|
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<PsycoXul> i'm not one for listening to the same set over again
|
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<PsycoXul> :p
|
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<Bagder> hehe
|
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<Zagor> make a list of the whole disk
|
||
<PsycoXul> how do you start the playlist?
|
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<Bagder> play
|
||
<g003y> ha!
|
||
<PsycoXul> hmm
|
||
<g003y> no go?
|
||
<PsycoXul> it just says loading nnn files, complete
|
||
<PsycoXul> and thats it
|
||
<Zagor> doesn't start playing?
|
||
<PsycoXul> no
|
||
<g003y> format of playlist affect it?
|
||
<Zagor> the display isn't supposed to say title or anything. but it's supposed to play the files.
|
||
<Zagor> odd. works in the sim
|
||
<PsycoXul> they're playlists that archos' firmware saved
|
||
<PsycoXul> heh
|
||
<Bagder> they should be fine
|
||
<Zagor> ah, how did you make those playlists?
|
||
<g003y> _should_ is the keyword in that sentence
|
||
<Bagder> hehe, of course
|
||
<Zagor> i bet there are backslashes and/or disk names in there?
|
||
<Bagder> I don't think so
|
||
<Bagder> mine didn't
|
||
<g003y> zagor - what format does the code expect?
|
||
<PsycoXul> lemme look at what they look like
|
||
<Bagder> normal / slash
|
||
<Zagor> forward slashes, no C:
|
||
<g003y> CR-LF combo?
|
||
<g003y> or just LF?
|
||
<Bagder> either way
|
||
<Bagder> ah
|
||
<Bagder> its broke
|
||
<g003y> I was just about to try it, but not now :D
|
||
<PsycoXul> ./Nine Inch Nails/The Fragile/Left/01 - somewhat damaged.mp3
|
||
<Zagor> kill the leading dot
|
||
<Bagder> initial dot huh? :-)
|
||
<Bagder> Zagor: the code doesn't work with CRLF right now
|
||
<Zagor> ok
|
||
<PsycoXul> heh that shouldn't be a problem :p
|
||
<PsycoXul> and they're dos format text too
|
||
* PsycoXul makes a whole-disk playlist
|
||
<PsycoXul> oh damnit whats find's problem
|
||
* PsycoXul runs it through sort
|
||
<PsycoXul> thats better
|
||
<PsycoXul> i noticed directories that start with a . don't show up in the browser
|
||
<Zagor> you can't have that in fat32, can you?
|
||
<PsycoXul> yeah i've got a few of them
|
||
<PsycoXul> just cause they also don't show up in archos' browser and they have either oggs or mp3's that are silent for no apparent reason on the archos [or maybe just with archos' firmware, i haven't tried them with rockbox]
|
||
<Zagor> ok
|
||
<Zagor> i need to test that. we don't do any filtering so that's a bug
|
||
<Bagder> Zagor: is the fs code totally case insensitive?
|
||
<Zagor> it should be, but there may be bugs
|
||
<Bagder> ok
|
||
<Bagder> it just struck me
|
||
<Zagor> umm, no. it's totally sensitive
|
||
<Zagor> bad move :)
|
||
<Bagder> dang
|
||
<Zagor> buh, now we need to add strnicmp to common/
|
||
<Bagder> heh
|
||
<Bagder> strncasecmp() ?
|
||
<Zagor> yes
|
||
<Bagder> (I'm just nitpicking on the name)
|
||
<Zagor> i know :)
|
||
<PsycoXul> ok my complete playlist ends up 2641 tracks
|
||
<Zagor> try loading it. you'll like it :)
|
||
<Bagder> ok, I'm off. See ya ma<6D>ana
|
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<PsycoXul> hmm
|
||
<PsycoXul> still doesn't play
|
||
<PsycoXul> /Ac-Dc/Back In Black/01-Hells Bells.mp3
|
||
<PsycoXul> format, unix-style text
|
||
<Zagor> ok
|
||
<PsycoXul> hmm after i started playing a file and pressing stop to go back to the browser, the ui sorta paused with a jerky scroll of the file it was on, for a second or two before letting me do anything
|
||
<g003y> different question (sorry to hijack) - Is there a way to go back to the playing display after exiting back to the browser?
|
||
<PsycoXul> and bass over 70% has nasty clipping on this AC/DC song heh, even at lower volumes
|
||
<PsycoXul> g003y: thats a good question
|
||
<PsycoXul> and there's still random files that get displayed with junk names
|
||
<PsycoXul> directories anyways i dunno about files actualy
|
||
<Zagor> g003y: currently there is no way to do that
|
||
<Zagor> PsycoXul: that might be short FAT names. I haven't been able to test those much.
|
||
<g003y> zagor - hmm... how about like a fetaure that returns to it when a user has idled on pressing buttons or would that be overdoing it?
|
||
<Zagor> i don't like the machine to decide things on its own. i think a simple toggle button is better
|
||
<g003y> I believe button combos are precious on the player.
|
||
<g003y> ok
|
||
<g003y> sounds fair to me
|
||
<PsycoXul> i think this one is called 'disc 2 misc' or something i dunno about the white spaces or if tehy're -'s or _'s, i forget, but it displays as 'isk_2_-_02_-_'
|
||
<Zagor> check to be sure
|
||
<PsycoXul> oh i've probably got it on the playlist i've just made so i can look at that heh
|
||
<PsycoXul> ah its actualy 'disc3-misc'
|
||
<PsycoXul> heh
|
||
<Zagor> and how is it displayed?
|
||
<PsycoXul> 'isk_2_-_02_0_'
|
||
<PsycoXul> er
|
||
<PsycoXul> 'isk_2_-_02_-_'
|
||
<Zagor> veeery odd
|
||
<PsycoXul> yeah and 'Beck' is displayed as 'Ozzy.m3u.m3u'
|
||
<g003y> left over buffer garbage?
|
||
<Zagor> looks like it, yeah
|
||
<PsycoXul> and 'Adam Sandler' is 'HMC1 Y?? U?' the ?'s actualy being little 3's as if they're being cubed heh
|
||
<Zagor> it's the fat32 driver
|
||
<g003y> psyco- is that only happening on playlists for you?
|
||
<PsycoXul> no its the display of these directories in the browser
|
||
<g003y> oh sorry
|
||
<PsycoXul> and these funky names are consistant
|
||
<g003y> I thought it was the filenames
|
||
<PsycoXul> they're always these heh
|
||
<g003y> heh... well at least it's consistent
|
||
<PsycoXul> though the adam sandler one the little 3's used to be other chars in older rockbox versions heh
|
||
<g003y> I think zagor is jamming over some fat32 code right now as we speak :D
|
||
<Zagor> what, me? :)
|
||
<PsycoXul> oh 'Misc-junk' also displays as 'Pilots.m3u'
|
||
<PsycoXul> and you know whatever else heh
|
||
<PsycoXul> hmm
|
||
<PsycoXul> and i go into the recycled dir
|
||
<PsycoXul> where theres some wav files
|
||
<PsycoXul> and i select one
|
||
<PsycoXul> and then stop it
|
||
<Zagor> this is not short-name issues. misc-junk is 9 chars == longname
|
||
<PsycoXul> and then press stop again to leave the recycled dir
|
||
<PsycoXul> and i get DH0 DH1 and INFO2
|
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<PsycoXul> displayed in the browser
|
||
<Zagor> eh?
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<g003y> I'm trying to reproduce it right now, but not much luck here
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||
<PsycoXul> ok its also sometimes just going into the recycled dir
|
||
<PsycoXul> and sometimes leaving it
|
||
<PsycoXul> hmm unless they're actualy in there and the bounce is putting me into the first one
|
||
<Zagor> well I need to gdb this, so it'll have to wait until the morning
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||
<PsycoXul> ok i think thats whats going on with the DH0 DH1 and INFO2 things is just that i didn't see them there at first because of the button sensitivity so disregard that one
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<Zagor> ok, good
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<PsycoXul> well there most of them came back
|
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<adi|work> jesus..
|
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<adi|work> just tested the playlist with 2000 line file
|
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<adi|work> that sucker flys :)
|
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<PsycoXul> yeah
|
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<PsycoXul> Loadding...
|
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<adi|work> and i love the variable scroll
|
||
<PsycoXul> Complete.
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||
<PsycoXul> 2641 files
|
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<PsycoXul> heh
|
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<PsycoXul> yeah
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<adi|work> hehe i don't even see the Loading in the sim ;)
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<PsycoXul> i just wish this playlist would actualy
|
||
<PsycoXul> you know...
|
||
<PsycoXul> play
|
||
<PsycoXul> :p
|
||
<adi|work> heheh hmmm odd
|
||
<PsycoXul> yeah it just loads
|
||
<adi|work> shuffle core dumps the sim
|
||
<PsycoXul> here it says "Shuffling..
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<PsycoXul> Done."
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<adi|work> yeah.. but i let it go and it cores...
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<PsycoXul> damn
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<PsycoXul> even at 70% bass i get some clipping
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<adi|work> on the player?
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<PsycoXul> yeah
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<PsycoXul> what happened man... heh
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<adi|work> ahh.. i only have recorder :(
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<PsycoXul> last day of last month i tried it
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<PsycoXul> and the browser was a little slow but there was no oversensitivity
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<PsycoXul> and you could crank the bass all the way without any clipping and it sounded good
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<PsycoXul> now its all oversensitive and clipping in the bass heh
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<adi|work> hehehe fix it ;)
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<PsycoXul> this one soundtrack too, the first track locks rockbox up
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<PsycoXul> tried it like 3 or 4 times
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<adi|work> hehehe
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<PsycoXul> just freezes with the browser display still on it
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<PsycoXul> yeah it is odd, the rest of the tracks in it seem to work fine
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<adi|work> we're violating memory somewhere in the sim...
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<adi|work> tracking it down
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<PsycoXul> so like i think from interface end that it'd be nice if it wants to stay in the playing-file-info-display while its playing
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<PsycoXul> and stop from there will stop it and return to browser while some other button or combo can switch between that and the browser while its still playing
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<PsycoXul> at least on the player, i know the recorder's got different buttons so it can behave different ways appropriate to it, but this makes sense to me on the player
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<adi|work> damn it.. i dont know what it is...
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<adi|work> but the sim is definatly bugging out
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<PsycoXul> so yeah i should like make some animated icons for the player or something
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<PsycoXul> hmm the firmware's shutoff in archos' firmware is faster than the hard one that works with rockbox
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<g003y> ahh back again :D
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<g003y> psyco - did you get that garbage display resolved?
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<adi|work> umm... day before last i think
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<g003y> he was having a problem earlier though
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<g003y> today that is
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<PsycoXul> well i think zagor was looking into it
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<PsycoXul> or not
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<PsycoXul> but there was a split and when it returned he didn't come back with it
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<PsycoXul> heh
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<PsycoXul> so i dunno whats going on
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<g003y> oh ok
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<g003y> I wasn't able to reproduce it, but I don't think I followed your steps exactly
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<PsycoXul> er? steps?
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<PsycoXul> the problem is with some directories
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<g003y> only some.... hmmmm
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<PsycoXul> right
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<PsycoXul> a few of them display weird things instead of what they are
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<PsycoXul> and the weird things they display are always the same, between reboots, different compiles, different versions, etc
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<PsycoXul> except one of them has changed a little between versions
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<g003y> hmmmm.... very strange. I was trying to see it happen on my player, but no go
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<g003y> ah well Zagor will figure it out :D
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<dwihno> hello gooey
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<g003y> heya
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<dwihno> waaazaaaap? :)
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<g003y> just trying to get a sourceforge account
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<g003y> but I didn't have my alias right so I imagine the verification email bounced or is relaying somewhere :D
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<dwihno> oops :)
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<g003y> heh... thats what I get for having two alias files :D. damn backups.
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<dwihno> yeah, backups are a pain in the ass ;)
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<g003y> hehehe
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<g003y> guess I will just wait and see what happens.
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<dwihno> yeah
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<dwihno> Have you done any productive stuff for rockbox? :)
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<g003y> not today
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<g003y> I'm trying to get my account setup so I can submit what I have at least
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<g003y> talked with Zagor and he liked my ideas
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<g003y> so I guess I will jam some code soon
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<g003y> that and try to finish gta3 one day :D
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<dwihno> ah
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<dwihno> gta3? is it possible to finish that game? :)
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<g003y> man... I tell ya. it always ends up in a game of how long can I live with x number of stars :D
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<g003y> I'm still only on the second island
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<dwihno> Island?
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<dwihno> Hmm
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<dwihno> I haven't even played it ;)
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<g003y> ahhh
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<g003y> worth a play at least once
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* dwihno has not even got a computer anymore
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<g003y> what are you in a lab or something?
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<dwihno> nope, work :)
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<dwihno> or whateveryoucallit ;)
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<g003y> no computer man. I feel for ya
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<g003y> ghahahahah
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<g003y> the spice mines
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<dwihno> hehe
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<dwihno> I'm awaiting money from an invoice...
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<dwihno> Then I'll get myself a kick-arse-evil-shiznat portable thingy
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<g003y> ahhhh... you waiting on the ones with the nice nvidia/ati 3d cards in them?
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<g003y> or something even more portable than a laptop?
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<dwihno> Nah, it's a laptop alright
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<dwihno> With a geforce4 go chip
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<dwihno> I can't live without q3a! :)
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<g003y> oh yeah thats sweet
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<dwihno> But I've been waiting for this invoice for almost a month now and I'm running out of patience
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<elinenbe> dwihno: I just got the toshiba 5105-s607 and it is incredible
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<g003y> geez.... surely it isn't hard to pay up.
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<dwihno> elinenbe: That purple thing?
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<elinenbe> well, more blue, but it is incredible
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<dwihno> Yeah
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<elinenbe> except for the battery life.
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<dwihno> I bet it is :)
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<elinenbe> that is the only thing I could complain about.
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<dwihno> It's a monster! :)
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<elinenbe> It is great.
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<dwihno> It's perversion at its greatest ;)
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<elinenbe> much faster/better/etc. then my old HUGE tower.
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<dwihno> What is the hardware specs?
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<elinenbe> 1.7 P4 mobile
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<elinenbe> 512 ram
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<elinenbe> 40 gig hard drive
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<dwihno> sweet stuff :)~
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<elinenbe> 15 inch 1600x1200 resolution monitor (easily the sharpest brightest monitor I have EVER used)
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<g003y> oh yeah.... you guys are making me horny with those specs :D
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<elinenbe> and I have had a 21 inch flat screen sony for a while.
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<dwihno> :)
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<elinenbe> flat CRT that is...
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<elinenbe> GREAT speakers including a SUBWOOFER!! (no joke!)
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<elinenbe> it is just incredible.
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<elinenbe> I went through 3 laptops getting this one.
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<dwihno> The dell-box I'm gonna get is a 1.6 P4-M, 512 RAM, 30 (or 40) gig drive.... And 1400xsomething screen
|
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<elinenbe> first a HP, then a Gateway, then this.
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<elinenbe> and this is BY far the best.
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<elinenbe> 8x dvd/cdr/cdrw
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<elinenbe> usually 1450x1200
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<elinenbe> or something like that
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<g003y> they do laptops with tfts at 1450x1200?
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<dwihno> yeah
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<g003y> fucking eh
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<dwihno> 15.1" something
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<g003y> thats almost 1600x1200
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<g003y> and it all fits in a backpack :/
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<g003y> that just owns
|
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<dwihno> yeah
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<dwihno> But as everything else, there is a pricetag :(
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<dwihno> I would get that toshiba if I was rich & famous
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<g003y> yeah I know... thats the hard part
|
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<g003y> hahahahahaha
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<dwihno> But I'm neither rich or famous, so I guess the Dell will be perfect for me ;)
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<g003y> if I was rich and famous I'd have one of each in the computing world :D
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<elinenbe> my laptop here is 1600x1200
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<elinenbe> 15.1 screen
|
||
<elinenbe> it is incredible.
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<dwihno> :)~
|
||
<dwihno> Hey, you really know how to pickup ladies at the bar ;D
|
||
<dwihno> "I got myself a Toshiba evil laptop thingy!"
|
||
<dwihno> "Whoa, lemme see!"
|
||
<g003y> "you wanna see my 15.1" baby?"
|
||
<dwihno> :)
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||
<dwihno> Damn
|
||
<dwihno> Windows won't let me start indesign
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<dwihno> *look through the process list for fishyness*
|
||
<elinenbe> on recorder: about 1.5 seconds for a 5000 song playlist, and then instant shuffle!
|
||
<elinenbe> wow!
|
||
<dwihno> whoa!
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||
<g003y> my playlist won't play though :(
|
||
<dwihno> KICK-ARSE!
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