rockbox/www/irc/rockbox-20020327.log

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--- Topic for #rockbox set by adiamas at Tue Mar 26 09:53:55
<Bagder> hey
<adiamas> welcome back
--- adiamas gives channel operator status to Bagder
<Bagder> thanks ;-)
<Bagder> we had quite a gathering here yesterday
<Bagder> as your logs might have shown
<adiamas> heheh let me scroll and see ;)
<adiamas> seems like it...
<adiamas> i wanted to play with the uisimulator on my home machine... but having issues...
<adiamas> seems that rh7.1 doesn't install the X11 headers for somereason.
<Bagder> :-(
<Bagder> btw, you should get the latest uisimulator sources
<Bagder> I updated them all day yesterday
<adiamas> yeah.. grabbed it this afternoon at work...
<Bagder> ah, ok
<adiamas> pops up a little black window..
<adiamas> white boarder with text?
<Bagder> yes
<adiamas> nods
<adiamas> i gotta take time to read the source.. no time at work...
<Bagder> most of the lcd-code is generic as it works on a buffer
<Bagder> the lcd_update() reads the buffer and makes X11-calls to draw in the window
<adiamas> damn it.. think i may have to download the neweest x
<Bagder> ouch, that's a *lot* 
<Bagder> isn't there any rh7.1 rpm with x11 headers?
<adiamas> i don't know rpms all that well :(
<adiamas> i pulled out the source from the source cd.. but not sure wtf im looking at...
<adiamas> so im playing with diff ideas
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<Bagder> morning wavey
<wavey> hiya bagder
<wavey> i keep reading your name as badger
<wavey> is there a meaning behind bagder?
<Bagder> hehe, I don't hold that against you ;-)
--- adiamas gives channel operator status to wavey
<Bagder> once upon the time..
<Bagder> back in.. 1987
<Bagder> I was about to pick myself a nick name
<Bagder> and this is what it turned out to be ;-)
<wavey> heh
<Bagder> I've stuck with it since
<wavey> same here, but it was 1991
<wavey> i was asked to give a name for a MUD
<wavey> and this one came out of nowhere
<wavey> and it stuck
<Bagder> I actually *did* intend to spell it badger
<Bagder> but I was a bad reader or writer or something ;-)
<wavey> heh excellent
<Bagder> then I thought the dyslexic style was kinda fun 
<wavey> should reduce the number of nick collisions, etc :)
<Bagder> yeps
<wavey> except on #dyslexic-animals
<Bagder> bwahaha
<adiamas> okay.. are you guys familar with rpms?
<Bagder> somewhat
* wavey is more of a debian man, but go on
<adiamas> well.. i don't ever use them...
<adiamas> im a jedi, i use the source luke
<wavey> heh
<adiamas> anyways... i have like 20 rpms for various forms of X11.. all i want are the friggin headers since rh7.1 didn't install witht hem...
<adiamas> is there and easy way to get at them?
<Bagder> isn't there like a x11-devel package or something?
<adiamas> and an easier question ;)  when charging your players.. have you run the batteries all the way down? and if so, how long did it take charging for you before it held the charge?
<wavey> you can unpack an rpm  without installing it to get files out, yes
<wavey> and i've run the batteries down a few times
<wavey> but never in one continuous go
<wavey> and i always charge overnight
<wavey> or even continuously
<wavey> so dunno
<adiamas> nods
<adiamas> it seems like its taking forever for this to take a charge again...
<Bagder> me neither, I haven't even had mine a week yet
<adiamas> and yeah.. theres a dev version...
<adiamas> but 7.1 is so bitch slapped i think im just going to pick up a new distro tomorrow...
<adiamas> think i might borrow a buds suse...
<adiamas> 7.1 shipped with a dev snap shot of gcc that was fucked.
<wavey> isn't 7.x really old?
<wavey> i haven't looked at rh for yearsa
<Bagder> 7.2 is the most recent, there's a 7.3 beta available
<wavey> ok, my bad
<adiamas> yeah... 
<adiamas> but im starting to really dislike the rh distro...
<adiamas> Bagder: what distro are you runnin?
<Bagder> rh 6.1 I believe, patched and upgraded beyond recognition ;-)
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<wavey> ad: how long is 'forever'? to take a charge?
<Bagder> hej Zagor
<Zagor> morning
<wavey> morning
<Bagder> Zagor: I feel a need for some source code organization from you ;-)
<Zagor> bagder, don't put those dir in the root. make a 'firmware' top dir to put them in
<adiamas> morning...
<Bagder> you mean uisimulator root?
<Zagor> no, the ones you mailed about. the target code.
<adiamas> wavey im looking at hmmm.. i was home by 23:30 est, and it's now 3:30 est
<Zagor> uisimulator is fine in the root, i think
<adiamas> so 4 hrs?
<Bagder> ah, right I didn't intend to put them in the root
<Zagor> ok, good
<adiamas> but i _really_ drained the batteries.
<Bagder> I thought of having a 'rockbox' module, as a name for the firmware
<Zagor> maybe a bit too general?
<Bagder> Zagor: but I was actually thinking of leaving that task to you ;-)
<Zagor> ah :)
<Bagder> as head of the team
<Bagder> I'm getting confused of all the various source code archives now ;-)
<Zagor> hehe
* adiamas pokes zagor 
<adiamas> so.. should i antagonize you about getting added to source forge team?
* adiamas grins wildly
<Zagor> hmm, did you send me your sourceforge user name?
<adiamas> nods
<adiamas> same one as here "adiamas"
<Zagor> ok. sorry, i must have missed it. i'll add you right away
<adiamas> and should we call this room "everyone gets op status bu Tumm"?
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<adiamas> hehe no prob..
<adiamas> just want to post ver. 1 of FAQ
<adiamas> its really basic and typo ridden.
<adiamas> i can't spell for crap.
<Zagor> no problem
<adiamas> but i figure once your happy, you post it where you see fit.
<Zagor> yup
<adiamas> Bagder btw.. when i was looking at the code for uisim, something odd...
<adiamas> the first function in screenhack.c, merge_options...
<adiamas> i was playing with the structs, just to test something we've been doing at work 
<adiamas> you do a memcpy, and i was playing with structure copies... they are a bit faster, but when i did it the size of the displyed box (not the white box, the surrounding box) tripled...
<Bagder> as the header of that file explains, it's been ripped-out from xscreensaver
<adiamas> any idea why?
<Bagder> no I don't, I'm not that well aquinted with those functions
<adiamas> hehehe k... ill go back then... was just the first thing i played with.
<Zagor> adiamas: you
<Zagor> are added now
<adiamas> ?
<adiamas> sweet.
<Zagor> "Doc Writer" :-)
<Bagder> Zagor: suggestion for a new page: cvs info, that sourceforge one is too hard to find and too generic
<Zagor> good point
<Zagor> i'll see if i can fix all the cvs issues today
<Zagor> including putting the web page in cvs
<adiamas> hehe Doc Writer works for me till i get my <insert profane insult here> box working better.
<Bagder> that would be really neat
<Zagor> tumm, who are you? i haven't seen you before.
<Bagder> I think he's asleep
<Zagor> ok
<Zagor> well, the more the merrier :)
<Bagder> Gary sure is one active guy
<Zagor> yeah
<Zagor> we have attracted a wonderfully productive crowd!
<Bagder> indeed
<Zagor> maybe i'm the exception. i spent last night playing cstrike :*)
<Bagder> we might consider putting named people in charge of various sub modules
<Bagder> haha
<Bagder> I got some really stupid problems with my Archos mounted filesystem yesterday
<Zagor> ok?
<adiamas> what problems?
<Bagder> when cp -r'ing
<Bagder> it failed, saying that the filesystem is read-only
<Zagor> whoa!
<Bagder> several times
<Zagor> sounds bad
<Bagder> I umunted and re-mounted and I could do it again
<Zagor> did you have usb-storage debug on?
<Bagder> no
<Bagder> it copies maybe a hundred files before it bails out
<adiamas> ive actually had that...
<adiamas> but it happened when i was in win, not linux... :(
<Zagor> hmmm, i can't remember how much i've copied to the recorder
<adiamas> thats when i got that corrupted file.
<Bagder> this is a 2.4.18 kernel
<adiamas> i did 500+ files today in one shot
<adiamas> hmmm same here.
<Zagor> i have a 2.4.17
<Zagor> but i only use ehci (usb 2.0) since i got it
<Bagder> my card arrived yesterday (at Contactor) so I'm soon gonna be there too ;-)
<Zagor> it's schweet! :)
<wavey> i xferred 32 cds of mp3 to my recorder in 1 1/2 hours with usb2
<wavey> that's 3500 songs
<wavey> 350 cd
<wavey> fuckin' a.
<Bagder> :-)
<adiamas> small house keeping question, cause im anal... umm... logging, will we be relying on printf to the screen, or an actual log file?
<Bagder> in uisimulator you mean?
<adiamas> cause i see you have a Logf() in uibasic.c
<adiamas> nods
<adiamas> kinda pointless to keep a log on the player ;)
<Bagder> my original intent was to use the log function
<Bagder> but then I lost my dicipline ;-)
<Bagder> also, some of the printf() things are placed in "actual" code, and we need to define how to deal with that
<adiamas> hehe well.. for what its worth... dicipline may be what we want to set this early :) its gonna be a pain in the arse to break habits later :)
<Bagder> on a global basis
<Bagder> you're right
<adiamas> i have a suggestion on that
<adiamas> something that seemed to work for me...
<adiamas> since we are doing "functionname(char *format, ...)
<adiamas> we just #define the function name, use that... then when/if you want to tear it out its a bit easier
<Zagor> i don't get it. what's the gain?
<adiamas> nothing significant.. i was just refering ot the "actual" code bit...
<Zagor> oh
<adiamas> doing dev, having it there is fine, but if you want to bring it o the player you want and easy way to remove it.
<Bagder> a #define macro can't use a variable amount of parameters, in ansi
<adiamas> and config files are out of the question in this case.
<adiamas> thats not what i mean... 
<adiamas> i mean: #define PRINTFUNC printf
<Bagder> aha
<adiamas> then just: PRINTFUNC("%s", "we are cool")
<adiamas> then you want to turn it off, then you just have PRINTFUNC point to an empty funciton
<adiamas> *poof*, no more output
<Bagder> but that still makes calls to code
<adiamas> nah, optimized out
<Bagder> only if in the same source
<Zagor> #define PRINTFUNC //
<Zagor> :)
<Bagder> hehe
<adiamas> yeah... 
<adiamas> heheh
<Zagor> ugly, i know
<Bagder> that's a bit "brual" ;-)
<adiamas> i like that better :)
<adiamas> brual?
<Bagder> why not just PRINTF(("%s", "rockboxk")); ?
<Bagder> then you can #define PRINTF
<Bagder> completely 
<Zagor> it gives really weird errors if you do a multi-line PRINTFUNC call
<adiamas> i don't get it.
<Bagder> #define PRINT printf x
<adiamas> oh, got ya
<adiamas> honestly, id just have issues with that on a readablity level
<adiamas> but thats just me
<Bagder> I have no strong feelings about either way really
<Bagder> we should define a single way to do it, and stick with it
* adiamas defers all decision making to you european types ;)
<adiamas> that i agree with...
<adiamas> and please please please, someone post preferences on how code is to be indented/spaced etc...
<adiamas> i get enough of 19 diff ppls ideas of formating at work...
<wavey> code layout is so unimportant
<adiamas> be nice to have something everyone is expected to stick with.
<wavey> as long as it's readable
<wavey> and runnable
<Bagder> we could have a "prefered" style, but allow stubborn people to use their own
<adiamas> readable is the problem.
<adiamas> nods.. thats what i ment.
<wavey> readable is common sense
<adiamas> i dont mean we take a LART to someone for putting a { on the wrong line.
<wavey> and no two people agree on styles
<Bagder> true
* adiamas thinks wavey hasn't seen what passes for 'readable' in his office
<Bagder> heheh
<wavey> and code beautifiers can be built into a makefile
<Bagder> beautifiers are no good for versioning
* adiamas watches cvs explode
<wavey> no, you beautify locally
<Bagder> right
<wavey> according to how you like code
<wavey> and you can do a 'standard' beautify before the check-in
<wavey> if these things matter to you
<wavey> cvs sucks ass, anyhow 
<Bagder> it's the best we have...
<adiamas> how do you do a standard beautify before check in? rely on the person remembering?
<wavey> i don't like non-exclusive versioning systems
<adiamas> define non-exclusive?
<wavey> adiamas incorporate it into the makefile
<Bagder> wavey: when doing global development, that's the only thing that works
<wavey> make checkin
<adiamas> nods
<wavey> bag: alas, yes
<adiamas> thought so.. tired, so checking :)
<wavey> non-exclusive == if i have it checked out, you can't touch it
<Zagor> wavey: i wouldn't want to admin a global project with exclusive checkout... :)
<wavey> zag: depends on the numbers, not the geographical distribution.. ;)
<Zagor> correct
<Bagder> I don't think the problem with CVS is the non-exclusiveness
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<wavey> hey alan
<alkorr> hi
<alkorr> well i'm planning to do an ARCHOS.MOD as a loader for a not scrambled rockbox.bin binary
* Bagder needs more coffee
<wavey> cvs will work fine for us - and i'm not ungrateful for sourceforge providing it..
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<wavey> hey linus
<linus> Yo!
<alkorr> yo Linus
<linus> I just dug up my FAT code. It isn't that much really. It was originally intended to be a general FAT12/16/32 driver, with emphasis on FAT16. It was for another project.
<linus> It is only working in a simulated environment, in Linux.
<alkorr> yes, ok I retrieve some of my FAT32 source but a little bit old compared with the last I've lost
<alkorr> so it could be interresting to merge
<linus> Yup. I'll give it to Bj<42>rn, and he will upload it to the web site.
<Bagder> hey linus
<linus> hey Bagder
<alkorr> well tell me if you are okay for what follows :
<alkorr> - only FAT32
<alkorr> - filesystem directly use ATA, no generic device
<alkorr> - ATA only handle primary controller and the master device (our HD)
<alkorr> are you okay with that ?
<alkorr> or do you want something else ?
<Bagder> I believe in incremental development
<Bagder> anything is fine
<Bagder> we improve it later if need be
<linus> It's perfectly OK. There's no need to develop any code that we won't use. I was planning to rip out the FAT12/16 stuff anyway, since the project it was intended for died.
<alkorr> must we handle only one partition ?
<linus> I don't see a problem handling several partitions, but let's start with only one primary partition.
<alkorr> ok
<alkorr> it is not a problem for me, it's just some code to add for having them
<alkorr> the only problem is how the user will see all the partition on his/her JB
<linus> That's why we should wait with that feature.
<alkorr> ok
<alkorr> i'm not sure about that, but did you know for people who have a recent JBR if their hd have a MBR or a direct FAT32 (true removable hd)
<alkorr> ?
<linus> I have no idea.
<Bagder> then you have to add that feature
<Bagder> we can't know all at once anyway
<alkorr> the old JBP and JBR cannot read direct FAT32 because of their old firmware 
<alkorr> badger ? your hd on you JBR is the original ?
<linus> I'm not sure I follow you. What is "direct FAT32"?
<Bagder> yes
<Bagder> I just got mine
<alkorr> can you have a look on the first sector to see its signature, a MBR or a FAT32 ?
<alkorr> unless you did format it
<Bagder> what tool can show the first sector like that?
<linus> My Recorder HD had one primary FAT32 partionaccording to FDISK, before I reformatted it... :-(
<alkorr> mc
<Bagder> ok, I'll try to remember to do that tonight
<alkorr> linus : a normal hd has a MBR with a partition table 
* adiamas growls at CVS
<alkorr> mc, look for /dev/sda, press F3, switch to hexa mode, that's all 
<linus> FDISK seemed to recognize a partition table when I put the recorder HD in my laptop yesterday.
<Bagder> alkorr: will do, I don't have access to it now
<alkorr> linus : a removable disk can have no MBR, i.e, it has no partition at all. Instead, it has a FAT32 boot sector at the very first physical sector
<linus> I just gave the FAT code to Bj<42>rn. Be aware, it is undocumented, and implemented straight from the Microsoft specification, so it is in no way optimized. It cad create empty files and directories.
<alkorr> Badger : yes I know, I just gave you the instructions to check
<Bagder> ok
* Bagder logs everything said here, saves him from taking notes ;-)
<alkorr> :)
<alkorr> linus : no problem :), Windows can read that kind of removable hd
<alkorr> linus : but old firmware don't know that
<alkorr> for those who used Windows 98 SE, it is very complicated to format
<alkorr> because you need to put the hd as removable to access it, but not removable to format it :/
<alkorr> Bj<42>rn ? how must I do to take Linus'source ?
<Zagor> wait :)
<alkorr> oh okay :)
<linus> Interesting. I just did that yesterday. I attached the redorder with an empty HD and partitioned it using FDISK. Was that the wrong way to do it?
<alkorr> are you interested with a simple ARCHOS.MOD as a loader for our rockbox.bin which wouldn't need to be scrambled ?
<alkorr> linus : an empty hd ?
<alkorr> linus : via USB or a ATA converter cable ?
<Zagor> alan: http://bjorn.haxx.se/rockbox/tmp/fat.tar
<linus> Well, brand new HD, via USB.
<alkorr> okay
<alkorr> it's strange, because Windows can only reckonize USB disk as logical disk...
<alkorr> at least it is what happens when I use WinHex...
<linus> So you mean that FDISK shouldn't be able to access the partition table of the Recorder?
<alkorr> DOS Fdisk ? Windows FDISK ?
<alkorr> or linux fdisk ?
<alkorr> a logical disk is a partition
<alkorr> a physical disk is the entire hd
<alkorr> with WinHex i cannot access USB disk as physical disk, So i cannot retrieve the MBR for USB disk, even I know it exists
<linus> Sorry. I ran FDISK in a DOS windows in Win98SE
<alkorr> was it an Archos disk using the chipset ISD200 ?
<linus> I created a primary partition (man those "integrity checks" tokk some time...) and then formatted it in Explorer.
<linus> I would have done it in Linux if it hadn't hung badly when I connected the Recorder... :-(
<adiamas> hmmmmm
<alkorr> So your BIOS is able to read the recorder HD !? i thought ISD200 was not totally compliant with USB Mass Storage
<adiamas> i had that issue today to...
<adiamas> matter of fact..
<adiamas> my recorder battery died.. caused linux to hang so bad i had to hard reboot
<linus> Alan: remember. The Recorder is an ISD300 device.
<alkorr> oh yes !!!!
<alkorr> okay i'm speaking about ISD200 !!!
<linus> Now we're talking. I had to use Linux when I did the same thing with my Player.
<alkorr> okay okay you don't even need a driver for Windows with ISD300 i suppose
<adiamas> okay.. sorry all you european studs you.. but this american needs sleep..
<adiamas> see you in a few
adiamas alkorr <Bagder> night adiamas
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<linus> I really don't know. When I connected my Recorder the first time, Windows asked for a driver disk, and I inserted the CD that came with the Recorder.
<alkorr> Zagor ? what do you think about ?
<alkorr> well, if your DOS is able to access your recorder, that means your BIOS has capability to see USB hd (i.e, those which are really compliant with USB Mass Storage)
<alkorr> Maybe if you don't give the CD, Windows will find another driver in its database
<alkorr> maybe maybe
<alkorr> anyway it is good for you not to be blocked :)
* Zagor thinks windows wants drivers for everything...
<alkorr> linus : i'm looking at your work
<alkorr> your fat entry cache is one sector ?
<linus> Nope. It is as many sectors as you need.
<alkorr> the reason why you use a malloc...
<linus> Actually it's 256 sectors. Look at line 71.
<alkorr> ok
<linus> As you see, a lot can be removed, since we don't intend to support FAT16. And in many places, I only have support for FAT12/16. We have work to do.
<alkorr> lfn ?
<alkorr> i must leave you. CU
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<wavey> can we get the logs of this channel sent to the website?
<wavey> they're very interesting
<wavey> any many people would be interested 
<Zagor> good idea
<Bagder> I can collect my logs so far
<linus> Daniel! Don't press DELE*...
<linus> Off for lunch. CU in a few.
<Zagor> same here
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<Bagder> he's alive! ;-)
<wavey> if uncommunicative ;)
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<alkorr> re-hi
<Bagder> alkorr: what's your surname? I'm typing up a little nick => real name list for posting the logs
<alkorr> i've no nickname. Alkorr is not enough ?
<wavey> alan korr, i think, yes?
<Bagder> people might want to know the real name, who's behind the nick
<alkorr> Alan Korr, my nickmane : Alkorr
<Bagder> ok, thanks
<alkorr> Alan Korr
<alkorr> just a question for Linus : did my rockbox work with serial ?
<Bagder> he's away, eating
<alkorr> right
<Bagder> now, as soon as Bj<42>rn has made the web updated vis CVS, I can just add the log there ;-)
<Bagder> s/vis/via
<alkorr> arf :)
<alkorr> you'r a fan of GREP ;)
<alkorr> okay i'll be here in one or two hours
<alkorr> good lunch
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<Zagor> hey, coyote
<Bagder> Zagor: how's the www cvs going?
<Zagor> it's just about ready
<Zagor> i'm just reorganising a few things. the scramble tools, for instance, gets a cvs dir of their own
<Zagor> also, I need to fix something about the load balancer
<Zagor> which of .html and .cgi has priority by default in apache?
<Bagder> I think it checks them in the order used in the config
<Bagder> index.cgi vs index.html that is
<Zagor> yeah. but that's not what I want to head :-)
<Zagor> hear
<Zagor> ok, so we'll have to remove index.cgi in the cron job on sourceforge.net. not a problem
<Bagder> or, you can just don't add it to cvs
<Zagor> yup. but i wanted it in cvs, so it's already there
<Bagder> :-)
<Bagder> btw, we could also use a new mailing list for cvs commits
<Bagder> its a great way to keep up with development
<Zagor> yes
<Bagder> if you name a directory within www, I could put yesterday's irc log there :-)
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<alkorr> linus : are you here ?
<linus> Helooooo!
<alkorr> hi linus
<Zagor> bagder: 'irc' sounds good to me
<linus> I'm sitting with your code trying to get it to run on my jukebox
<Zagor> we'll make an index page with info about server/channel, and then links to the logs
<alkorr> okay, if you have some questions, don't fear to ask
<linus> UIE6A at 900014be
<alkorr> you caught an exception ?
<linus> Yup.
<Bagder> Zagor: I added the dir and put the log there just now
<alkorr> exception 106 : TXI1
<Zagor> ok
<Bagder> Zagor: there's a short nick => real name list at the top of the log, it could probably be put on the main page too
<Zagor> ok
<alkorr> is abnormal, you shouldn't get it because I don't use interrupt when transmitting
<linus> You might have turned it on by mistake, since you do use it for receiving.
<alkorr> SH1 tries to call an interrupt TXI1 but as i don't code an interupt TXI1, it defaults to a UIE
<alkorr> yes but it's strange, because I never caught this interrupt
<alkorr> let me have a look on SH1 hardware manual
<alkorr> SCI1SCR is set to 0x70, which means only RIE,TE and RE is set
<alkorr> RIE = Receive Interrupt Enable
<linus> Yeah, I saw that too...
<alkorr> TE = Transmit Enable (nothing to do with interrupt)
<alkorr> etc.
<linus> By the way, you never called serial_setup() in the code you sent me.
<alkorr> yes because I did in setup ()
<alkorr> setup () contains all the initial setup for most ports
<alkorr> included SCI1
<alkorr> setup is in main.c
<linus> Now I see. Why do you do that instead of using serial_setup()?
<alkorr> well serial_setup was just an extra in case we need it elsewhere
<Zagor> bagder: doesn't "cvs update" make new dirs?
<Zagor> i just updated the sf page, and didn't get the irc dir
<Bagder> no, make a habit of using "up -dP"
<alkorr> I prefer concentrate all initialisation in one setup () with direct access on port for a smaller code
<Zagor> ah
<Bagder> -d for make dir, -P for delete removed files
<alkorr> quite now i never use serial_setup (a old code)
<linus> I understand. I have another opinion, but never mind. Let's find out whywe get that interrupt...
<alkorr> my intention is to have the smallest code possible for the final rockbox so we can have the largest space for buffer
<alkorr> a choice to do
<linus> Good idea
<Bagder> me like inlined functions then, best of both worlds
<alkorr> so, without changing my code, you caught this interrupt ?
<alkorr> that's true, Badger, i should try do so too to check i didn't lose space that way
<Zagor> btw, alan. he's "bagder", not "badger". it
<alkorr> sorry :)
<Zagor> 's an old story :)
<Bagder> it proves he's not using tab completion ;-)
<Zagor> haha
<alkorr> Bagder, are you sure ?
<alkorr> :)
<Bagder> that would be french tab complettion then :-)
<Zagor> tab completion to a dictionary, perhaps ;)
<alkorr> yes i forget this capability :)
<alkorr> very practical indeed
<alkorr> ok, linus, can you tell if you made a change before catching this interrupt ?
<alkorr> linus, add a new interrupt in serial.c
<alkorr> or let me change my serial.c and i will send it to you
<linus> Alan, I removed my extra call to serial_setup(). Now I get "OK WORKING", but no serial communication seems to work
<alkorr> ok, it looks as if my software is no good
<alkorr> if only i could remember what i did to make it work before my hd crashing :(
<linus> I'll look into it. Hang on.
<alkorr> linus : we must check if REI1 is called
<alkorr> add : "	}
<alkorr> add : "lcd_goto (0,0); lcd_puthex (QI(SCISSR1),2);" in REI1
<alkorr> it will display in hexa the byte read for Serial Status Register (overrun,frame or parity error)
<Bagder> Zagor: you should add Gary to the activity table
<Zagor> ok
<alkorr> oh wait, and if PB10 and PB11 is not set as serial pins in setup () ? i'm checking them
<Zagor> bagder: ui simulator?
<Bagder> lcd code and ui sim for windows at least 
<Zagor> ok
<Zagor> did rob ever put his faq anywhere?
<Bagder> I don't think so
<alkorr> Linus, check for BAUDRATE and PHY at the begining of system.h
<linus> 12MHz and 9600
<alkorr> 9600 is okay for you ?
<linus> Yup.
<alkorr> well, when there is no serial jack pllugged on my JBP, it displays "OK WORKING!"
<alkorr> the same thing when pluged but nothing in my serial terminal
<linus> Are you sure that you don't loop the serial data in your PC?
<alkorr> what do you mean by looping ?
<linus> Echoing
<alkorr> i echo what I get not what i put
<alkorr> I = sh1
<alkorr> there is no echo from the PC side
<linus> Got it!
<alkorr> so ?
<linus> You have to insert a small delay before enabling TX and RX (SCR1 = 0x70). I made a while(i++ < 30000);
<alkorr> ok
<alkorr> good to know
<linus> As the manual says: "one bit time"
* Bagder grins
<linus> I spent quite a few hurs myself with exactly the same problem. I should have remembered that... :-)
<alkorr> ok you know what i did ?
<alkorr> i just put the last SCISCR1 = 0x70 just after setting interrupt priorities and it woks now
<alkorr> so we don't need a very long delay
<alkorr> very good now i can display messages on my serial terminal :)))))))
<alkorr> thanks to you Linus, I thought about that but i was sceptical :) finally you did the right thing
* Bagder hoorays
<alkorr> ok i will see later
<alkorr> bye
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<linus> Gotta go now. CU!
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<alkorr> oh linus is left, well okay.
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<Zagor> gotta run. see you guys
<Bagder> bye!
<Bagder> I figure the day is over now, I'll clear off as well
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