**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Jun 13 04:36:02 2002 --> stile (~adiamas@216.194.26.64) has joined #rockbox --- Topic for #rockbox is Version 1.0 released! http://bjorn.haxx.se/rockbox/ --- Topic for #rockbox set by ChanServ at Tue Jun 11 03:31:20 after much thought and decision making.. ive decided.. ppl in general.. suck :) you didn't already know? ;-) <-- adi|home has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) i just dind't know they sucked so bad --- You are now known as adi|home "just one more time, for the sake of sanity... tell me why, explain the gravity" * Bagder sings along * g003y wonders what song bagder is singing, and how is co-worker's feel about his voice I play so loud in my headphones I can't hear them anyway ;-) hahahahaha and the song is an Assemblage 23 one * Bagder doesn't expect anyone to know it 4 on the floor techno? I wouldn't call it techno, but rather dark and hard synth/industrial ahhh... thats different. I'm talking the shit you hear in clubs that sounds like one big freaking record the dj never changes :D ah, nah, I'm not into that kind thats good :D is there a key combo with the current firmware build that lets you get back to the currently playing song display? I dunno heck, I hardly know how to use it at all ;-) hmmm.. I don't see one in the code so I'll assume no. :D I want my rockbox :D I want rockbox for recorder! :D But I'm patient So I'll just wait And contribute to the project in every way I may :) the day there's sound from the MAS3587, I'll run Rockbox non-stop MAS3587? The chip in R20? yeah mkay ahhh... I'm running my own personal build of rockbox right now :D that's the spirit! Yeah, playlist parsing, LCD flickering and a couple of other things and I'll use it too it ain't cool if you didn't build it yourself ;-) I saw some cvs comments about playlist parsing support so I suspect that is nearing completion or useable the code is already there actually ahh good deal just not shuffle fair enough it "should" work now I haven't loaded any yet Bagder: any limitations? I mean, does it parse m3u's with #-style comments? been awhile since I've used playlists to be honest me neither, I have a recorder ;-) dwihno: no comments, no do regular m3us have them? those are bastard m3us that nullsoft made the switch too. well, ignoring lines like that would be dead simple to add Bagder: Winamp store song information (length) every other line... oh yeah sometimes I really hate the way they do things. Is there a battery meter available yet? :) nope :( The scroller is way cool btw... Should be seamless though that's a whole can of worms as they say yeah I got the scroller api displaying the filename across the screen at least until you dump out of that mode back to the browse mode :D :-) cool I almost think ppl should be able to select/build in code for parsing their style mp3 naming, but that might be a beast nobody wants to cut loose I'm gonna take a stab at that soonish shortening the names on screen hmm hmmm we should share notes :D yeah I always name mine XX. YYYYYYYYY (ZZZZ).mp3 X = track number Y = file name Z = remix notes Artist - Album (Year) That's how I name the dirs I think that is fairly common it could be just a small handful defintions of formats that ppl could choose from with a sensible default just in case. Does the current rockbox have any way of showing song length information? Compared to the archos firmware, that is it estimates the length for non VBRs that's all so far estimates based on header info correct? yeps but isn't that pretty much exact? it is should be at least ahhh... gotcha it uses integer math too which might make it loose some precision I haven't checked that closely you're probably right whats the problem with time display on vbrs? we need to read the whole file to get the length and it kind of sucks Is there a quick way to do VBR estimation? erhm I'd say that sucks that is sucky I did not realize vbr sucked that way As long as CBR's are OK ;) ha.... I'm torn between CBR and VBRs with r3mix options on lame. Hey, what is displayed when songs are played? id3 info with the current cvs tree lcd_puts(0, 0, mp3.artist?mp3.artist:""); lcd_puts(0, 1, mp3.title?mp3.title:""); there ya go :D oww Doesn't it handle non-tagged files?! :( you mean id3 info without id3? ;-) hehehe hehehehehehehe mr. funny-ass pants ;) I've got alternatives going on my local copy so I'm sure it will be handled eventually at least before the recorder version comes out :D cool haha * Bagder puts the "in charge of the while-playing-song display" sticker on g003y gagagagagagagagagag hey that isn't coming off! only problem is I don't have everything quite setup right here. I need to get an account and a real cvs login for the project mail your sf account user name to Björn I will though... I'd really like to contribute my code oh... I've got to get an sf account as well :D you can always start with mailing diffs tru e I've just been syncing anon and patching my changes it's not much so far, but I should get setup properly I still can't believe how advanced the apis on the firmware are already it's pretty cool indeed alrighty guys. like Bagder I have to code boring stuff in a few hours at my day job. So I think some sleep is in order for me. night g003y night <-- g003y (~foo@m198-187.dsl.rawbw.com) has left #rockbox it seems as if Zagor has problems with the new hardware... it should've been up by now <-- gregh has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) cpu MHz : 1600.072 [~] cat /proc/cpuinfo|grep MHz cpu MHz : 232.674 cpu MHz : 232.674 There you got it dual süstëëm Dual is sleek, sexy and pr0no! :) dual 1600 cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep MHz cpu MHz : 1600.072 cpu MHz : 1600.072 you evil dude! :) its the new hardware that the rockbox site runs on cool stuff who pays the hw? Contactor the company I, Björn and Linus work for Hire me :) sure Yay ;D hehe Why not? :) I wish we could, but the market is a bit rough atm I know Are your employers aware of you spending a lot of time on the Rockbox project? no :-) I won't tell them but then I must do my proper work properly anyway Yeah My recorder sometimes skips the initial 200 msecs of a song... exactly 200? Roughly (with the stock firmware, that is) Do you experience that on the player models? (w, w/o rockbox) no idea --> Zagor (~bjst@mimas.contactor.se) has joined #rockbox hey ho hi. back at last 10:04 < Zagor> see you soon ;) yeah, well that's pc hardware for you... the motherboard has two IDE LED connectors if you connect the "wrong" one, the keyboard stops working... that one took me a while to figure out... Intel inside, Zagor outside so, what have you guys been up to this morning? We've been talking about how rockbox handles tags when the files do not have id3 tags :) g00ey was around and told us he's done some improvements on the software for what to show while a track is playing g003y ok, did we get the code? And I thought the scroller would be seamless seamless? Zagor: no, but he'll return dwihno: what do you mean seamless? I'll show Zagor had a little lamb.mp3 or had a little lamb.mp3 a little lamb.mp3 lamb.mp3 This is how it is now Zagor had a little lamb.mp3 or had a little lamb.mp3 not any more a little lamb.mp3 Zagor lamb.mp3 Zagor had a littl This is what it might be like :) you run old code it is seamless now mkay upgrade! ;-) OLD?! It's 24 hours old man! :) Or perhaps 48 yeah, i fixed that last night hehe that's stone-age code! :) :-) Did you take a peek at the LCD glitch? umm, remind me please? When scrolling across pages, the LCD did glitch Like old un-doublebuffered stuff :) Where is your lamb btw? ah, well we don't know why that happens. and yes, it is single buffered. we don't have two. lamb? yeah http://www.jupither.net/dw/ <-- like that, on that page ;) Zagor: you tried the id3 info Magnus mention on the list? id3 info bug i haven't read my mail yet, doing it now oh R-r-r-roockboooox! We need an anthem! yeah, the boot song! ;-) brb <-- Zagor has quit ("Client Exiting") --> Zagor (~bjst@labb.contactor.se) has joined #rockbox Bagder: you got it! :) The Rockbox-choir and the London philharmonic orchestra ,D haahah Maybe I can pull a few strings ;) Get it? Strings :) *moo haw haw* mr joker ;-) :) wooo, project activity stats on freshmeat really I meant graphs "Rating: 8.54/10.00 (1 vote)" how can one vote give average 8.54? hehe Magic math (tm) hey, I'm that single voter on rockbox this virus epidemic is getting seriously annoying Total (weighted) 8.54/10.00 "weighted" is the keyword I gues guess Zagor: yes, but cut down the allowed size and it won't be as troublesome good point. 50k max now Klez virus mails are always >100K, at least those hundreds that I've got min plugin_teamkill funkar iaf, ser jag uh, wrong channel :( --> jedix (~liam@fwott1-1.cis.ec.gc.ca) has joined #rockbox hey jedix hey * dwihno is rather happy now 4 of 5 projects are in the "no work to do" area of my list :D and the fifth is "Implement asteroids on Rockbox" ? :-P hehe not really darn I have no computer to work on sparetime projectgs Which is rather nasty I mean, I'm actually getting a tan! :( sun gives you cancer I know! I need some way to stay indoors! compile, link, upload, flash, run, watch problem, edit, save => LOOP (my whole day in summary) --> liam_ (~liam@fwott1-1.cis.ec.gc.ca) has joined #rockbox --- liam_ is now known as jedix` flash? flash rom mkay I don't even have a debugger on my darned target have to fill my code with printf() What is the target hardware? strongarm 1110 whoa no, its no whoa ;-) jees, it iis timeout jedix <-- jedix has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) --- jedix` is now known as JediX whats new? --- JediX is now known as jedix not very much --- dwihno is now known as dw|gone fixing randomize menu option now neat NEATO ZAGOR! All your box are belong to rock! I'm off. Have a nice evening and try to stay indoors - the sun will cause cancer! I'd suggest you call it "shuffle" and not random good idea where do I find the currently loaded list? it's a global struct in playlist.c ok * Zagor wants current_tick in simulator... :) i'll just use time() instead for seed it doesn't really matter just increase the current or something i'll use the tick. otherwise it'll be the same every first time after boot right oops, core in playlist after 1002 lines ah there's a 1000 max oh i thought it was 10000 ? without any checks for it ;-) yeah, but I just used one raise it now will do adding check, too :) wooo what's index_array used for? I don't see it uh, remove ;-) ok Zagor: why did you have to rewrite my scroll stuff? I chose a slightly different approach, that's all there was nothing wrong with your code to be able to do the new type of scroll, I sprintf the text into a string and then puts the string. for the new shuffle to be useful, we need a "next tracj" button track we could use that for playlist without shuffle too ;-) yep too bad we are out of buttons :) well we should have a special "screen" for showing while playing a track, right? I mean if we're not browsing the tree? yes we should. so you could go in and out between the browser and this screen right i.e. we need some UI work might want to save that for 1.2 though fair enough and if we play a track and idle in the tree browser, we could timeout back to the show-track-screen which I believe the archos firmware does we could, but I'm not sure I'd want it to. definitely a configurable option :) yes the play-screen will be useful since it'll give more control of back/skip and volume up/down which isn't as easily available when tree browsing exactly <-- jb1081 has quit ("[x]chat") --> jb1081 (~jb1081@lime.ircam.fr) has joined #rockbox the shuffle menu should probably say something if no playlist was loaded right I suspect people will do that I wonder how fast the playlist loader is on target I mean, compared to the original archos one i'd suspect somewhere in the order of 100 times faster :) it would be really cool --> edx (OKE60@pD9EAB848.dip.t-dialin.net) has joined #rockbox hi hi! hmm... (maybe a stupid question... but..) would it be possible to write a keybard driver for the jukebox so we can plug in a usb keyboard :? no too sad.. why not? we can't use the USB for anything like that for what reason? it's out of reach damn. like a linux console on the recorder would rock ;) * Bagder puts a curl release together we can connect a keyboard to the remote control port hmm on the remote port... sounds good... :) Then I would have to build my own remote port.. but for a keyboard - no problem :) you need to build a serial converter for the keyboard, but the rest should be simple there are serial converter chips, right? (i dont have much knowledge about hardware unfortunately) yup. just like the gdb cable tested now. my 4500 line file takes about 5-6 seconds to load that's just totally awesome indeed but it'll be faster with some simple adjustments to playlist.c like what? it should be loading 512-byte blocks, not 255 --> elinenbe (trilluser@bgp01080511bgs.wanarb01.mi.comcast.net) has joined #rockbox ah right fixing... 'ello lol ... now it takes like 5 secs for a 30 song playlist :P hi yeah, the stock firmware is shockingly slow at loading playlists painfully slow. so slow -- I usually take a dump, shower, and shave before it loads my 3 song playlist. also, we should accept both / and \ as separators. i suspect winamp creates files with \ elinenbe: Zagor just tested, we load a 4500 song playlist in 5-6 seconds that is great. we are now talking full disk shuffle? yes we are yeah Zagor: we might get problems with paths too when we talk about files created by external programs yep. C:\my music\... :) yah I am just wondering... what is the status on playing sound on the AJBR Linus is working on that we should include Linus in our prayers ;-) --> ironi (ironi@as2-5-7.j.bonet.se) has joined #rockbox I was wondering... does anyone else ever get the reversed screen on the recorder? hey ironi reversed screen? even the rockbox bmp is reversed Bagder: ? hey Bagder huhu? gosh Bagder: do u use emacs a lot? where everything is flipped. ironi: nah, only 10-12 hours a day ;-P